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Re: Trump

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UpWrong wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 5:15pm The trade war with Canada is hotting up. US stocks are falling. Is Trump going to have a Liz Truss experience?
There are quite a few people comparing Trumponomic with Trussonomics with its simplicity, its refusal to soften things to keep market confidence and its promoter's tendency to "double down" when challenged.
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There are also people suggesting that he and his close associates don’t care too much about crashing the US economy, because that allows them to buy-up assets at fire sale prices, giving them a tighter stranglehold on tgat economy in the longer term, and allowing them to profit if they wish when prices rise again, which they do the moment he softens his stance
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Nearholmer wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 6:04pm There are also people suggesting that he and his close associates don’t care too much about crashing the US economy, because that allows them to buy-up assets at fire sale prices, giving them a tighter stranglehold on tgat economy in the longer term, and allowing them to profit if they wish when prices rise again, which they do the moment he softens his stance
Exactly what I've been thinking,the boom/bust economy is staged for the rich by the rich for themselves to accumulate more wealth/power.
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Re: Trump

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It's clear that Trump and Vance see the EU as a rival, not as a friend or ally. I've just returned from a week in France and I have never felt so European. France and the UK have a massive joint heritage.
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Re: Trump

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mjr wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 5:52pm
UpWrong wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 5:15pm The trade war with Canada is hotting up. US stocks are falling. Is Trump going to have a Liz Truss experience?
There are quite a few people comparing Trumponomic with Trussonomics with its simplicity, its refusal to soften things to keep market confidence and its promoter's tendency to "double down" when challenged.
And the protagonists' economic illiteracy.
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Re: Trump

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UpWrong wrote: 15 Mar 2025, 9:04am It's clear that Trump and Vance see the EU as a rival, not as a friend or ally. I've just returned from a week in France and I have never felt so European. France and the UK have a massive joint heritage.
And we should never have left the EU.

Is Trump set to invade Canada after attempting to destabilise it's economy?
Malcom Nance thinks so and a lot more besides:- https://youtu.be/ya3Q0-VCk1Q?si=pyM4nvsVgJ5ZPO84
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Re: Trump

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Bonefishblues wrote: 15 Mar 2025, 9:19am
mjr wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 5:52pm
UpWrong wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 5:15pm The trade war with Canada is hotting up. US stocks are falling. Is Trump going to have a Liz Truss experience?
There are quite a few people comparing Trumponomic with Trussonomics with its simplicity, its refusal to soften things to keep market confidence and its promoter's tendency to "double down" when challenged.
And the protagonists' economic illiteracy.
First billionaires bust the economy then they buy stock at rock bottom prices then sell when the economy recovers and make a killing(literally).
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Re: Trump

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Democracy doesn't necessarily suddenly die, often (like under Putin) it slowly fades away.

But today could be a landmark in the ongoing death throes of US democracy. The administration has openly refused to obey a court order.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9yv1gnzyvo

If courts have no authority, any government is simply a dictatorship. No law, no justice, no freedom.

That seems to be where America is tonight.
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^^^ It would appear so,sadly.
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^^^ Yes. Line crossed. Wedge inserted, thicker end coming soon. USA descending into the pit, fine except that will take other countries with it.
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For a little light relief in these troubled times when we all see the signs,there's always Pi**edoffbartender to brighten up the day:- https://youtu.be/WwQLOEqXzp4?si=D8I9i-ArXKm7CHmo

CAUTION,sweary in the only way the 'tender can do it
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I suppose it'll make the annexation of Canada even more bizarre!

"The Daily Telegraph reports that President Trump has suggested he could sign up the US as an associate member of the Commonwealth, because of his love for the King. The paper says he backed the idea on social media, in response to claims that Buckingham Palace could make him a "secret offer" during his second state visit to the UK. It adds it is "not known" whether the palace or the government have been involved in any such discussions, with plans for the trip still being finalised...." (BBC News)
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Re: Trump

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UpWrong wrote: 15 Mar 2025, 9:04am It's clear that Trump and Vance see the EU as a rival, not as a friend or ally. I've just returned from a week in France and I have never felt so European. France and the UK have a massive joint heritage.
As do a majority of right of centre folk in the UK.
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Re: Trump

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pete75 wrote: 22 Mar 2025, 4:30pm
UpWrong wrote: 15 Mar 2025, 9:04am It's clear that Trump and Vance see the EU as a rival, not as a friend or ally. I've just returned from a week in France and I have never felt so European. France and the UK have a massive joint heritage.
As do a majority of right of centre folk in the UK.
You sure?

Noting that this polling was *before* the Trump evisceration of the transatlantic alliance, most centre and right folk already wanted a closer EU relationship.

It would be very surprising if that hadn't been significantly accentuated by subsequent events.
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Re: Trump

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roubaixtuesday wrote: 22 Mar 2025, 9:46pm
pete75 wrote: 22 Mar 2025, 4:30pm
UpWrong wrote: 15 Mar 2025, 9:04am It's clear that Trump and Vance see the EU as a rival, not as a friend or ally. I've just returned from a week in France and I have never felt so European. France and the UK have a massive joint heritage.
As do a majority of right of centre folk in the UK.
You sure?

Noting that this polling was *before* the Trump evisceration of the transatlantic alliance, most centre and right folk already wanted a closer EU relationship.

It would be very surprising if that hadn't been significantly accentuated by subsequent events.

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Looking at that most right of centre don't.
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