Your Rough Stuff Photos

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Chris Jeggo wrote: 21 May 2025, 2:43pm
Skids wrote: 20 May 2025, 2:08pm One issue is the low slung derailleur hanger eats grass and jams up,
Could grass-deflecting strips be bodged on to the jockey sprocket cage?
I was thinking about that. Most derailleur anxieties about bikes or trikes with small wheels are self solving, as the derailleur tends to move forward in the lower gears used off road, and hang more vertically in the higher gears, so you're less likely to knock it on objects near the tyre than you think. Even Bromptons don't have a big problem here, though they do get covered in muck.

Grass is tricky though, as it's all-pervasive. I've been brought to a stop even with the Linear's 700c rear wheel on occasion, though more usually I just find bits of grass stuck in it afterwards which I have to pull out as it interferes with the gear change. The trick is to rig something up which the grass won't drag into the mechanism with it, causing actual damage. If the chain tension is right, so that the derailleur is well forward in lower gears, that will help, though it depends on your gear set up. There probably is a deflector of some sort that could be made without it being even harder to get the grass that does get in there out. Maybe something with whirling blades, though the amount of time spent getting grass stuck in your gears is probably actually tiny compared with the amount of grass free riding that most people do. It certainly doesn't stop me going off road!
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Heritage trail IOM -- not really rough enough stuff but picture box perfect stuff -- maybe a new thread?
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Cowsham wrote: 21 May 2025, 9:54pm Heritage trail IOM -- not really rough enough stuff but picture box perfect stuff -- maybe a new thread?
As the OP I’d say that that picture is within the spirit of this thread, it’s fine and I’m pleased that you shared it :) .
Nearholmer wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 3:28pm This is bound to degenerate into a definitional debate about what “rough stuff” is or isn’t, and/or tales of riding up the North Face of The Eiger on a penny farthing while wearing now’t but a Yorkshire tea bag, but before it does, here is a pretty picture taken on The South Downs Way.
Collectively we’ve ensured that such diversion hasn’t happened and some fourteen pages later there’s been both no upset and a wonderful variety of scenes and routes. Congratulations to all concerned 👏😁.
PH wrote: 9 Mar 2025, 1:11pm My rough-stuff doesn't tend to be very rough, though taking a soft definition of it being anything off tarmac, a selection of mine.
… and very interesting and appropriate photos they were too, thank you. As OP, and for my purposes in this thread, that broad and simple definition is perfect. :D
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taking a soft definition of it being anything off tarmac
I go along with that definition too. :)
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fatmac wrote: 22 May 2025, 8:58am
taking a soft definition of it being anything off tarmac
I go along with that definition too. :)
Seems ok to me!

I've always wanted to use the term "soft-roading" to describe off-road rides that aren't as gung-ho as the modern MTB trend. Trouble is it hints at soft (i.e. muddy in the UK) surfaces, which is really my aim ...

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For donkey’s years, I was riding away from paved surfaces, and didn't really know what to call it at all. I’d never heard the term “rough stuff”, and the term “gravel” hadn’t been coined. When people asked what sort of cycling I was into, I’d explain, then they’d looked perplexed and say “Oh, so mountain biking then.”, and I’d say “No, more like elongated cyclocross.”, and they’d then look even more perplexed. I’m not totally sure there ever will be a perfect label for “it”, because “it” doesn’t have firm boundaries. “Unpaved” is about the nearest I can think of, but it’s not exactly catchy, is it?

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Nearholmer wrote: 22 May 2025, 9:25am For donkey’s years, I was riding away from paved surfaces, and didn't really know what to call it at all. I’d never heard the term “rough stuff”,
Well you have now :idea: :)
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The Linear on the shropshire union canal near Middlewich.
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Well you have now :idea: :)
Well, yes, I think I came across it about ten years ago, maybe a little bit before I came across “gravel”.

I still think that neither is more accurate than the other, but since the latter is more widely understood (cue massive argument), I tend to use that shorthand these days.
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Rough stuff is a well established and used term in CTC group circles, it's general definition is - There'll be some moaning from the group if you go that way without warning, but you don't need a specialist bike.
Rough stuff rides have long appeared in DA/Member groups Best All Rounder (BAR) competitions, though those seem to have fallen out of fashion as well. How rough the rough, is open to interpretation, leading to some light hearted ribbing and the occasional mutiny.
A couple of photos from me, both on an NCN route, No 1 in Lincolnshire I think. The first just about meets the CTC definition, particularly as it's a fairly long stretch. The second meets the soft definition here, but would form part of any CTC ride without warning or adverse comment.

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The Rough-Stuff Fellowship used to describe themselves as :

"For cyclists who love byways and tracks".

Which I think is just about perfect as a 'mission statement'.
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[youtube] https://youtube.com/watch?v=cZk2jV5gJbM ... Lqm6iUbvF5 [/youtube]

Slightly off topic. True rough stuff riding ! Hope the link works !
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Up the hill from there
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