Trump

[Zulu Eleven]

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I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

The BBC hasn't been without criticism in the past, and the two largest complaints I remember were editing film sequences of the miners' strike to make it look like the first point of aggression was from the miners to the police, and the second was losing the film of the 'battle of the bean field' where police attacks on unarmed traveller families and their homes - so that the event went unreported.

However as the right wing press hated both sections of the community it remained quiet at the time - the right wing being open to doctoring and even withholding news items to push poltical narrative, with as much enthusiasm as the accused left (which means the only way forward is to despense with the ideals of the right and left and embrace anarchism).

There is some concern that immigration and other factors in America where under reported by the BBC in the run up to the America elections and other issues such as women's rights (for family planning) were over stated, and that this was some sort of agenda, against the British people to skew their view of Trump and his administration, and perhaps of the concerns of the right wing in general.

I don't believe that. I believe that people report those items of news for which they feel is important, and this itself is a very human thing to do.
If we are going to step away from the narrative of news and present it in a form which is entirely protected from emotional biase - we may as well present a string of figures, including national and local crime statics, gdpr, economic growth, and ecological markers.

One of these statistics is that Trump's popularity has fallen, and has now dipped below 50% approval rating. The one thing that he's promised the people which is cheaper food, as a whole still hasn't happened. American beef has continued to climb in price - probably unhelped by climate change. Do we want to listen, or read a string of figures every time we turn on the news?

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I don't know where this cartoon has come from, but it's not an accurate representation of the situation, is it?
The bbc hasn't put a stick in its own wheels. That's the privately own right wing press, and it's done so because they believe the concerns of mainstream America wasn't accurately reported.

It wasn't even that well drawn... personally if I produced a piece of work to that level I would be deeply embarrassed.

[853]

I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

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I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

It's not broadcasting fake news, is it? The news that Trump sought to prevent Biden, through civil disobedience/violent direct action (depending on your point of view) becoming president is not, nor has never been disputed.

Unless we're taking about something else the bbc has done?

[mattheus]

I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

Fake news? Nonsense.

The Trump speech? They - well actually an agency that they paid - just edited together two bits of his speech in a way that emphasised one aspect of the speech. Arguably they were wrong to do that, it was hardly "Fake news!!!"

[al_yrpal]

The BBC needs to have a look at its journalists and presenters. Some of them are clearly following their own political agendas rather than trying to be objective and neutral. It must not be a mouthpiece for the Guardian which has the ludicrous habit of saying it is independent when its clearly a Leftie mouthpiece.

The Resolution Foundation pressure group is now in charge of the Treasury following two brain Willit's mantras alleging that old folk have stolen young peoples future. Watch out for that....

Al

[roubaixtuesday]

I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

Hysterical nonsense.

The edit was wrong but not material. Merely making clear it was two separate sections would address all criticism and change nothing ride about the programme, or it's message.

It was so minor nobody even noticed for years!

[roubaixtuesday]

On the (lack of) a legal basis for libel damages.

https://davidallengreen.com/

[cycle tramp]

The BBC needs to have a look at its journalists and presenters. Some of them are clearly following their own political agendas rather than trying to be objective and neutral.

'Objective' is good. 'Factual' is even better, 'netural' less good. A good news item, should inform people as to what's happening, but it should instill a sense of power within the reader as well - either to oppose it, support it or suggest an alternative. If it doesn't, then the news story is at risk of simply causing anger...
You can't have a news story about the middle East conflict or woman's rights or benefits or whatever without engaging an emotional response. There will be those who will prioritise the unborn over women's rights, and vice versa, or public spending vs the needs of the individual or whatever, as well as all shades in between. We're not, or shouldn't be spectators in our lives - we should for whatever reason, looking to give ourselves purpose in life, to attempt to make it a better place.
'Neutral' to me, means that we are content to allow these situations to rumble on indefinitely - and in the case of the further plastising of our oceans or the increase in global warming.. its something we can't afford to do. We need more than neutrality, we need a sense of passion that causes us to consider our actions, and perhaps seek change.
As Alan Moore once wrote 'words are to a means of meaning - an attempt to alter the mass consciousness of humanity to find a better path'

[roubaixtuesday]

“Fearless journalism is what terrifies politicians, and it must not be cowed."

https://bsky.app/profile/newsagents.bsk ... ellep42a27

[853]

I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

Fake news? Nonsense.

The Trump speech? They - well actually an agency that they paid - just edited together two bits of his speech in a way that emphasised one aspect of the speech. Arguably they were wrong to do that, it was hardly "Fake news!!!"

It was fake and the BBC broadcast it. It doesn't matter who made it, it was the responsibility of the BBC to make sure it was accurate and truthful, as they broadcast it.

The fact that the BBC have been extremely slow to issue an apology just makes them look like a grubby, third-rate, biased news outlet

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I'm going to add that whilthe bbc is facing heavily criticism- its as means to an end which is to destroy the bbc rather than seek some sort of higher level of journalism.

No, it's the BBC destroying itself by broadcasting fabricated fake news. It is no longer possible to believe a word it broadcasts

Hysterical nonsense.

The edit was wrong but not material. Merely making clear it was two separate sections would address all criticism and change nothing ride about the programme, or it's message.

It was so minor nobody even noticed for years!

Just stating the facts; if you want to argue with the facts that's up to you

[Mike Sales]

The rioters who stormed the Capitol believed that they were doing Trump's will. They came from all over the USA to 'stop the steal' as he put it, by preventing Biden being endorsed by Congress. When they were prosecuted they felt that they were betrayed by Trump, and expected a pardon, which they eventually got.

[PDQ Mobile]

He describes the experience of life in the US today as “a nightmare. America is a nightmare right now. The country is mentally ill. It needs help. There seem to be delusions of grandeur and self-loathing in equal measure. It gets grimmer every day. I’ve never seen such dysfunction in my life. It’s really embarrassing.”

From here.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/n ... sell-crowe