Old age helmets

[Nearholmer]

Is this thread going to bring to the table some new, and useful information?

Is this thread simply a place for people to repeat opinions that they formed some time ago, all over again?

Now, let me guess …….

[mattheus]

Is this thread going to bring to the table some new, and useful information?

Is this thread simply a place for people to repeat opinions that they formed some time ago, all over again?

Now, let me guess …….

That's not very nice. At the very least we've had some genuine science (from jdsk) that i hadn't seen before:

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PS: Hip protectors are probably more widely used at the moment, eg:
https://www.cochrane.org/evidence/CD001 ... der-people

[Nearholmer]

Sorry. Bad night due to rain hammering on the roof, then dog walk in the hammering rain. Probably even grumpier than usual.

One data point to add though: hammering rain puts people off of cycling more than helmet advice does.

I usually see lots of people cycling to work or school if I take the dog out between 8 and 9, some wearing helmets, most not. They have clearly not been put off of cycling by helmet advice. Today, I saw two miserable looking people pedalling along. The rest had been put off by the rain.

[pjclinch]

If you genuinely are fall-prone, perhaps you should.

This is fair, though I suspect it's more likely that limbs will suffer and the issue there can be they're needed in good shape to get back up. Particularly if living alone some means of raising the alarm is probably more generally useful, so always keeping a mobile phone about one's person, for example.

Kurt Vonnegut (also a novelist! ) died from head injuries sustained in a fall, in his case falling down stairs. Stairs are pretty dangerous places (about 700 deaths/year in the UK), and avoiding those and other fall-prone places comes higher up the hierarchy of risk controls than PPE to mitigate the effects of a fall if it should happen - that doesn't mean that mitigating the effects isn't a good idea or isn't worth doing though.

Pete.

[Jdsk]

If you genuinely are fall-prone, perhaps you should.

This is fair, though I suspect it's more likely that limbs will suffer and the issue there can be they're needed in good shape to get back up. Particularly if living alone some means of raising the alarm is probably more generally useful, so always keeping a mobile phone about one's person, for example.
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The risk of other potential harms doesn't affect the effectiveness of this intervention.

Jonathan

[tenbikes]

rt Vonnegut (also a novelist! ) died from head injuries sustained in a fall, in his case falling down stairs. Stairs are pretty dangerous places (about 700 deaths/year in the UK), and avoiding those and other fall-prone places comes higher up the hierarchy of risk controls than PPE to mitigate the effects of a fall if it should happen - that doesn't mean that mitigating the effects isn't a good idea or isn't worth doing though.


Oh dear. I've just moved into a house with two staircases after living in a bungalow for over 45 years......I'm stuffed!

Now, where did I put that cycle helmet [and crash pants...]

a very worried Tenbikes [who only has 7 now!]

[Jdsk]

"Cochrane review shows that reducing trip hazards and decluttering can prevent falls among older people living at home":
https://www.cochrane.org/about-us/news/ ... mong-older
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub2/full

Jonathan

[Nearholmer]

The woman I was referring to lived in a flat, with all adaptations, pull-cord alarms, on-person alarm thingy round her neck, her husband always there to help her if needed, and still she used to bang her head, so maybe in extreme cases a helmet is appropriate, Im not sure. The cause incidentally, was severe arthritis which she’d had since her twenties, causing her to suddenly loose stability.

[mattheus]

"Cochrane review shows that reducing trip hazards and decluttering can prevent falls among older people living at home":

So Tenbikes is definitely safer now he's down to 7!

[Bmblbzzz]

PS: Hip protectors are probably more widely used at the moment, eg:
https://www.cochrane.org/evidence/CD001 ... der-people

I know way more people with hip and pelvis fractures from cycling than Traumatic Brain Injuries, so if you're implying hip protectors would be wise for cyclists, I'm all in.

As worn by downhillers, or something built into the bike as nearly became mandatory for motorcycles back in 1989?
https://hansard.parliament.uk/%E2%80%8C ... Protectors

[Cugel]

"Cochrane review shows that reducing trip hazards and decluttering can prevent falls among older people living at home":
Jonathan

Who'da thought it!? Are there studies concerning the defecation of bears in the woods? I've always wondered if the rumours are true.

But them stairs ..... and in a hoose with a vigorous collie and a insertive corgi! (likes an ankle-stroke, he does) I feel in my water (no study being available on the matter) that I should go carefully to bed; and also when I arise and go via them stairs for the necessary coffee to waken me fully.

I would don a cycle helmet on the stairs but feel they are likely useless for preventing broken necks and pelvises; or head-bang skull crushes, even. But perhaps you can reference "a study"?

[pjclinch]

But them stairs ..... and in a hoose with a vigorous collie and a insertive corgi! (likes an ankle-stroke, he does) I feel in my water (no study being available on the matter) that I should go carefully to bed; and also when I arise and go via them stairs for the necessary coffee to waken me fully.

Cats are also a poor safety mix with stairs, it turns out, especially when they've decided that if they come down with me that will lead to breakfast, and they'll just wait around near the top for me so as not to miss it.

Pete.

[cycle tramp]

"Cochrane review shows that reducing trip hazards and decluttering can prevent falls among older people living at home":
Jonathan

Who'da thought it!? Are there studies concerning the defecation of bears in the woods? I've always wondered if the rumours are true.

The BBC have just reported that the Pope, on balance of probabilities and backed up by historical evidence is in all likelihood of Catholic religion.... following recent events, they think they're fairly safe with this news item...

..inside information further suggests that the breaking news 'the world is 'round' has gone back to the editors for fact checking.....

[Cugel]

But them stairs ..... and in a hoose with a vigorous collie and a insertive corgi! (likes an ankle-stroke, he does) I feel in my water (no study being available on the matter) that I should go carefully to bed; and also when I arise and go via them stairs for the necessary coffee to waken me fully.

Cats are also a poor safety mix with stairs, it turns out, especially when they've decided that if they come down with me that will lead to breakfast, and they'll just wait around near the top for me so as not to miss it.

Pete.

The cat may have formed a cunning plan to deliberately trip the householder so as to free up various resources aboot the hoose normally forbidden to the puss. For a start, there are plenty juicy bits worth snacking on in a human corpse, until it gets beyond a certain state of ripe. The mog may, following this exotic feast, then go to sleep it off in the middle of the now vacant feather mattress, from which it was formerly shooed away.

Smug, it will be.

Eventually it will go seeking another victim to charm and dominate.

[Cugel]

"Cochrane review shows that reducing trip hazards and decluttering can prevent falls among older people living at home":
Jonathan

Who'da thought it!? Are there studies concerning the defecation of bears in the woods? I've always wondered if the rumours are true.

The BBC have just reported that the Pope, on balance of probabilities and backed up by historical evidence is in all likelihood of Catholic religion.... following recent events, they think they're fairly safe with this news item...

..inside information further suggests that the breaking news 'the world is 'round' has gone back to the editors for fact checking.....

Although various studies have been made into the rotundity or otherwise of Planet Erf, new alternative facts have recently emerged in Texas, as well as Florida, which "prove" that Erf has edges. King Trumpit has decided that this must be so as it would be a beautiful place from which his many enemies (most of mankind and also other kinds, especially womankind who don't fawn and simper at his advances) could be pushed to get rid of them once and for all. What more proof is needed?

It's also a well-known fact in Iowa and also Oklahoma that one way for true-believer creationists to achieve rapture is to sail off the edge of The Erf, as angels will pluck them from a disastrous Fall into the arms of the divvil, who lives under The Erf waiting for the unelected to offer themselves to the angels only to discover that no matter how many contributions they made to Reverend Dollargrubber's TV appeals, they have failed to make the grade.

This is one reason why King Trumpit will retain elections for 2028 albeit well-fixed by vigorous Repugnantist gerrymandering. He will also be redefining the meaning of The Elect and God had better agree!

PS Studies by scientists (other than those working for oily-gassers and snakeoilers) in universities are to be made illegal and their authors each sued for $1,000,000,000,000.