Carradice Bagman support quick release

[Bmblbzzz]

Well, I'd never thought of using the Bagman QR without the Bagman. I suppose you could tie the saddlebag round the seatpost, as with the classic rack, or let it drape onto a rack, if you have one and the drop is suitable. Or you could just let it dangle, if you don't mind it nodding away.

In fact I've never actually used my Bagman as I don't have enough saddle rail behind the seatpost...

[geomannie]

Well, I'd never thought of using the Bagman QR without the Bagman. I suppose you could tie the saddlebag round the seatpost, as with the classic rack, or let it drape onto a rack, if you have one and the drop is suitable. Or you could just let it dangle, if you don't mind it nodding away.

In fact I've never actually used my Bagman as I don't have enough saddle rail behind the seatpost...

I think if I rode smaller frames I would want the support, but with large frames there is plenty of room. I just let the bag dangle and while it may sway a little, the movement is of no consequence.

[andrew_s]

https://carradice.co.uk/products/bagman ... g-supports

Any using one of these ( maybe with a Camper Longflap) and if so what are your impressions?
TIA

Well stuffed Camper Longflap on a Bagman QR (Expedition), going up onto the Ridgeway from Uffcott.


There's not much effect on the handling of the bike, but on a rough road it bounced enough to clout the mudguard quite hard, which provoked me into adding a bumper to soften the blow. These days I usually use just the QR, with the saddlebag resting on a rack, but that's more to allow a free choice of panniers or saddlebag than from necessity.

[andrew_s]

You can add those to either model, though neither Sport or Expedition versions come with them as standard, though I think they did at one time. The struts can of course be added at a later date, so I'd be inclined to try without first.
https://carradice.co.uk/collections/bag ... ort-struts

The support struts came as standard with the Bagman 2, which had an aluminium support loop for reduced weight.
Despite the extra support from the struts, it wasn't up to the job,and broke if asked to hold much weight, so it didn't last long before going out of production. My stand alone QR is from a broken Bagman 2.

[wjohnr]

Hi, I'm new to the forum so just finding out how it works.
My question relates to the Carradice quick release saddlebag bracket system.
I have several bikes equipped with this QR system, and generally find it pretty good. However, the last few months I have lost two (on different bikes) of the pins that fix into the holes of the sliding bars on the bracket. These metal pins are capped by a black plastic cap. These pins have slipped out of their own accord and have been lost, meaning that I've had to tie the saddlebag on to the bracket with string to get home.
Has anyone else had this problem of these metal pins coming lose?
I've been in touch with Carradice about it, and they sent me a replacement "kit" of sliding bar, spring, and replacement metal pin. However, the new pin is too large for the holes in the sliding bar. I've filed it down, and tried hammering it in, to no avail.
My contact at Carradice has said she doesn't know what else to propose, and also said that these metal pin pieces have always been the same. However, that is untrue, as the recent pin I received has a slit down one side, and the previous ones did not. So there has been a modification.
I guess I can cook up a solution myself, find a piece of tube the right size, but really Carradice is professionally bound to propose a solution to this, something that is obviously a design fault. As is said, a system is only as strong as its weakest element.
I have asked the contact person that has been replying to me to provide the contact of a superior ranking person, as she seems to be unable or unwilling to go into this problem further. However, it's difficult to believe I'm the only one that has had the problem.

[Norman H]

The original Bagman QR had plastic tipped pins that screwed into the sliding bar, and they were inclined to come loose and get lost, DAHIKT. The replacement kit that Carradice have sent you is meant to solve this problem. The screwed pins have been replaced with roll pins, and they are meant to be a tight fit. The ends should be slightly chamfered to aid insertion.

Have another go at inserting the pins. The key is to support the sliding rod on a solid surface and try gentle tapping with a hammer.

[yostumpy]

If you could find some tiny machine bolts with nuts, then drill the sliding pin straight through, and use the small bolt with a lock nut top and bottom.

[andrew_s]

If you could find some tiny machine bolts with nuts, then drill the sliding pin straight through, and use the small bolt with a lock nut top and bottom.

That won't work.
The sliding pin fits into a hole with a slot for the trigger pin. The top of the sliding pin is flush with the side of the hole, leaving no space for any lock nut.

What makes things more awkward is that the trigger pins have to be fitted into the sliding pins with the sliding pins in place, with the spring down the blind end of the hole.

It may help to put a small chamfer on the edge of the hole in the sliding pin that the trigger pin fits into, to get the rigger pin started in the hole before you knock it tight with a small pin hammer.