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axel_knutt wrote: 30 Apr 2026, 2:46pm Our local Wetherspoons has just refused to serve Reform supporters.
I'll get my popcorn & pull up a chair. :lol:
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Shirly shum mishtake, as Brownshirts require beer halls in which to excite themselves with the fermented barley so as to go out to do a proper job, with sticks, boots and fists flailing to full effect. Also the accompanying slurred & incoherent shouts are needed. Will Farrago supply his yoboes with free beer, though? Seems unlikely as his org is a business, not a political party. Businesses, especially those run by greedy little chancers, prefer not to waste cash on overheads and expenses for their "workers".

Perhaps Farrago will send out his blackshirts to see the Weatherspoon fellow, to "explain" his error? He will surely be persuaded by the immaculate logic involved. (Lerr uz in or else).

On the other hand, perhaps a krypto-gangster will cough up for the Brownshirts' grog ration? Farrago seems to have quite few such benefactors. One wonders what they want in return. One can easily guess, I suppose. It won't be unlimited beer and skittles for the hoi-polloi, not even the Brownshirts.
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What i want to know is how the bar staff can spot 'em....
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Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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al_yrpal wrote: 9 May 2026, 10:45am Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: UK Politics

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These results were predictable. If you accept that the 2024 general election was a one-off, it makes sense. A lot of people don't vote in local elections, but those who do are often older. Reform gets a lot of support from the 50 plus age groups and older. It's like the 2019 general election- Boris did really well with anyone over 50. I haven't seen the exit poll survey data yet but I'm confident about that.

Unless Labour ditches Starmer, they are dead and buried. Polankski on this is on the money, regardless of what you think of him and his party.
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al_yrpal wrote: 9 May 2026, 10:45am Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Al
Yes and at historically low prices

Then didn't act in time to raise interest rates which lead to the house market crash then bailed out the stupid banks and cause a recession bigger than the Japanese lost 20 year recession.
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al_yrpal wrote: 9 May 2026, 10:45am Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Al
It is true the reserves were sold but such a decision would have been taken not just by Brown but also by the Gov of Bank of England and other economic "worthies".

His later Chancellor, Darling, was credited with playing a good and pivotal role in staving off a worse outcome after the 2008 crash by fast and decisive action.
......
A far bigger, longer lasting and ongoing recession has been caused by leaving the EU and the single market- which Alyrpal voted for and presumably still supports.
Pound never recovered.

It easy to give sound bites like the one the Reform leader in Wales just uttered, "we are the Peoples Army".
In my estimation they are probably less of a peoples army than the Tories!

If Reform get power in Westminster then the hard economic decisions that Labour have been grappling with will become their responsibility.
We shall see, though the rich donors to Reform (non UK Thai cryptocurrency chaps etc) don't seem likely to help average Joe much to me.
Disappointment awaits.

I wonder what Farrago would do with gold reserves?
As he has been actively and heavily promoting cryptocurrency firms- most especially those associated or run by those self same big bucks donors.
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Cowsham wrote: 10 May 2026, 1:35pm
al_yrpal wrote: 9 May 2026, 10:45am Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Al
Yes and at historically low prices

Then didn't act in time to raise interest rates which lead to the house market crash then bailed out the stupid banks and cause a recession bigger than the Japanese lost 20 year recession.
Yes, total load of idiots. Shoe in for Reform this time. Heading for another recession...

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al_yrpal wrote: 10 May 2026, 10:52pm
Cowsham wrote: 10 May 2026, 1:35pm
al_yrpal wrote: 9 May 2026, 10:45am Starmer appoints Gordon Brown as an advisor on international finances.... Isnt Gordon the chap that gave away UK gold reserves... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Al
Yes and at historically low prices

Then didn't act in time to raise interest rates which lead to the house market crash then bailed out the stupid banks and cause a recession bigger than the Japanese lost 20 year recession.
Yes, total load of idiots. Shoe in for Reform this time. Heading for another recession...

Al
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You'll find Reform will let you down in similar ways to the idiots that are in now and the ones before that cos they're all from the one school. How to get into government school but they haven't done the - how to run a country exams.
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Re: UK Politics

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atoz wrote: 10 May 2026, 1:24pm A lot of people don't vote in local elections, but those who do are often older. Reform gets a lot of support from the 50 plus age groups and older.
<snip>
Unless Labour ditches Starmer, they are dead and buried.
These two statements do not fit together!

The conclusion from the first is that Labour will do much better in the General Election.
(hardly a great insight - the current Gov usually get a kicking at local elections. Twas ever thus ...)
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mattheus wrote: 11 May 2026, 10:30am
atoz wrote: 10 May 2026, 1:24pm A lot of people don't vote in local elections, but those who do are often older. Reform gets a lot of support from the 50 plus age groups and older.
<snip>
Unless Labour ditches Starmer, they are dead and buried.
These two statements do not fit together!

The conclusion from the first is that Labour will do much better in the General Election.
(hardly a great insight - the current Gov usually get a kicking at local elections. Twas ever thus ...)
No, if 2019 is anything to go by, it will be a convincing Reform win next general election. The local elections results merely confirmed that.

Wait for the poll data. This isn't just mid term blues.

Many older people are Tories. Or they were, now they're Reform voters. Of course Reform are just a more extreme version, often with Tory defectors. Many Red Wall constituencies have an older age profile. Natural Reform material. Meanwhile Starmer and co have failed to mobilise the votes of younger age groups. The last time that happened was 2017, the general election that people are in denial about. Look at the vote share then, for Labour, and look now. The left vote is fragmented. Corbyn is old news, and the Greens are not near breakthrough point under first past the post.

Welcome to a repeat of 1987. The clothes and gender of the leader are different but the politics are much the same. For Farage think Thatcher in a man's suit.
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PDQ Mobile wrote: 10 May 2026, 10:02pm A far bigger, longer lasting and ongoing recession has been caused by leaving the EU and the single market- which Alyrpal voted for and presumably still supports.
Pound never recovered.
Totally untrue

If you look at the figures from the European Central Bank you'll see that the pound has gained against the Euro since we left the EU

Euro v Pound since 31-12-2020.png

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_ ... bp.en.html
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Re: UK Politics

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The graph only goes back to 2021 though.
And the Euro is only one currency.
Against the Swiss Franc, for example, the Pound has more than halved in value since 2008.
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PDQ Mobile wrote: 11 May 2026, 7:30pm The graph only goes back to 2021 though.
And the Euro is only one currency.
Against the Swiss Franc, for example, the Pound has more than halved in value since 2008.
That's not a fair example as the Swiss Franc which was pegged to the euro broke that link in 2015 and resulted in a 30% boost to its value against all major currency's overnight.
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rjb wrote: 11 May 2026, 8:05pm
PDQ Mobile wrote: 11 May 2026, 7:30pm The graph only goes back to 2021 though.
And the Euro is only one currency.
Against the Swiss Franc, for example, the Pound has more than halved in value since 2008.
That's not a fair example as the Swiss Franc which was pegged to the euro broke that link in 2015 and resulted in a 30% boost to its value against all major currency's overnight.
It is what it is.
An example of the weakened Pound
And the pound has lost MORE than half it's value against the Sfr since 2008 - just a simple fact.

If you search for "Pound Value after Brexit" you will get results that say " Pound has lost 15% against the Euro and 20% against the Dollar".

From what I read there is no doubt that leaving the single market etc has had a significant negative effect on the UK economy.

And as for travelling costs.....
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