Udder cream for bum protection

[Jdsk]

I note Sudocreme is marketed as having antiseptic properties while Vaseline has none. Is that what you mean with "antibacterials"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudocrem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaseline

has the constituents.

(There might be different formulations under the same brand name in different countries. This is quite common. I haven't checked. )

Jonathan

[roubaixtuesday]

I can suffer from really bad chafing, particularly when walking but also cycling. It's been bad enough that I literally can't walk when it comes on, and it can do so very quickly. I guess I have acid sweat.

I find Savlon an excellent curative when it does happen, and apply it prophylactically on all long rides and hikes, which has always been a success.

Having found something that works, I'm not at all inclined to use anything else, though I suspect there's not much to choose between the various options in reality; like chain lube anything is better than nothing.

My skin seems to have become more rather than less sensitive as I've got older.

[Jdsk]

...
PS: I'd stay away from antibacterials unless there's a special need or some evidence.

I note Sudocreme is marketed as having antiseptic properties while Vaseline has none. Is that what you mean with "antibacterials"?

I'm guessing that if you get to the point where you've broken the skin then antiseptic properties are probably a Good Thing?

No. For both unbroken and broken skin the starting point for advice is to keep it clean and dry, avoid aggravating factors, and avoid unnecessary chemicals.

This can change when there's evidence for benefit

This can be seen in the NHS advice on nappy rash:

https://www.nhs.uk/baby/caring-for-a-ne ... appy-rash/

Jonathan

Edited

[mjr]

For both unbroken and skin the starting point for advice is [...]

Pardon? Is there an extra word, or a word missing?

[MrsHJ]

Haven’t come across udder cream although that’s bringing back memories of feeding babies.

I like burts bees hand salve. Consistently use it when cycling especially overnight when touring. Obviously my body components are a bit different to the blokes here but I find the main issue for me is that everything rubbing tends to dry out the skin and leads to spots on the bum which are uncomfortable and can get infected. Using the salve overnight keeps everything in good shape and stops the spots developing. My saddle comfort has massively increased given I use a rido saddle which is very hard and whilst I use it for my coccyx the saddle was initially very uncomfortable for the bum.

[JohnR]

I've just stumbled on this potentially relevant advice https://selleanatomica.com/blogs/homepa ... ling-guide.

I've sometimes been afflicted by pimples in the saddle contact sand my own mitigation measures are (i) rubbing the contact areas with surgical spirit to sterilise the skin and (ii) if there's soreness, to then apply a little Sudocreme.

[Navrig]

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2020 ... ling-team/

I seem to remember an article back about British Cycling "banning" (not sure how it was policed) intimate shaving for the UK team prior to the Rio Olympics.

[mattheus]

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2020 ... ling-team/

I seem to remember an article back about British Cycling "banning" (not sure how it was policed) intimate shaving for the UK team prior to the Rio Olympics.

.. and you've just perpetuated the myth.

[Navrig]

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2020 ... ling-team/

I seem to remember an article back about British Cycling "banning" (not sure how it was policed) intimate shaving for the UK team prior to the Rio Olympics.

.. and you've just perpetuated the myth.

Blame the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ore-medals

[mattheus]

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2020 ... ling-team/

I seem to remember an article back about British Cycling "banning" (not sure how it was policed) intimate shaving for the UK team prior to the Rio Olympics.

.. and you've just perpetuated the myth.

Blame the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ore-medals

THAT article doesn't mention a ban, so you're misquoting them; good work!
The welovecycling article you first quoted DID use "banning" - but they were wrong.

So you've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper. Are you a trainee journalist?

[Rob D]

Haven’t come across udder cream although that’s bringing back memories of feeding babies.

I like burts bees hand salve. Consistently use it when cycling especially overnight when touring. Obviously my body components are a bit different to the blokes here but I find the main issue for me is that everything rubbing tends to dry out the skin and leads to spots on the bum which are uncomfortable and can get infected. Using the salve overnight keeps everything in good shape and stops the spots developing. My saddle comfort has massively increased given I use a rido saddle which is very hard and whilst I use it for my coccyx the saddle was initially very uncomfortable for the bum.

Interesting, thanks. I've been suffering a bit with spots on the bum on current tour, so this could be helpful. Current treatment is TCP, which does seem to help. But having something to prevent them in the first place would be good.

[Navrig]

.. and you've just perpetuated the myth.

Blame the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ore-medals

THAT article doesn't mention a ban, so you're misquoting them; good work!
The welovecycling article you first quoted DID use "banning" - but they were wrong.

So you've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper. Are you a trainee journalist?

Did you purposefully ignore the quotation marks? Seems so.

[mattheus]

Blame the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ore-medals

THAT article doesn't mention a ban, so you're misquoting them; good work!
The welovecycling article you first quoted DID use "banning" - but they were wrong.

So you've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper. Are you a trainee journalist?

Did you purposefully ignore the quotation marks? Seems so.

They were plain to see (and I know what they are). So my point still stands:

You've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper.

[Navrig]

THAT article doesn't mention a ban, so you're misquoting them; good work!
The welovecycling article you first quoted DID use "banning" - but they were wrong.

So you've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper. Are you a trainee journalist?

Did you purposefully ignore the quotation marks? Seems so.

They were plain to see (and I know what they are). So my point still stands:

You've spread a myth, and misquoted a major reputable newspaper.

Try again

[mattheus]

OK, so it seems that Navrig and I have different views on quoting, misquoting, and on journalism generally. But I'll try to summarise the key points:

In this Guardian article (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ore-medals )
it's quite clear that riders were advised against certain processes. There was no ban.
Equally I haven't seen any other source (if we exclude dramatic headline writers) that corrobarate any BC "ban". Here's the relevant text (direct copy-n-paste from the Grauniad):

Then there was the knotty problem of pubic hair removal. “The world‑class expert advice from a professor at Cambridge was that waxing and shaving didn’t help our fight against saddle issues,” says Burt.

Pubic hair helps with the transport and evaporation of sweat away from the skin. It also provides some friction protection. Hair removal methods such as shaving, depilatory creams or epilation create damage to the outer layer of the skin known as the epidermis and increase the risk of ingrowing hairs and hair follicle infections.

The women were strongly advised to stop shaving, waxing and depilating.

My bold, not the newspaper's.