rim wear with V-Brakes
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rim wear with V-Brakes
How do I assess rim wear? How much wear is too much? Thanks
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Some rims have a recessed line, mark or depression. These mark the safe limit of rim wear by braking.
If you had no wear limit marks then you should find a way to measure the rim sides thickness and see how much metal is left in order to decide when to replace them.
Alternatively, how far have they been ridden?
The rims on my bike are looking like they will do 5 or 6 thousand miles from new before needing replacement.
If you had no wear limit marks then you should find a way to measure the rim sides thickness and see how much metal is left in order to decide when to replace them.
Alternatively, how far have they been ridden?
The rims on my bike are looking like they will do 5 or 6 thousand miles from new before needing replacement.
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Thanks - I've seen wear guides (a groove all around the rim) but these rims don't have that. I reckon they may have been ridden only 1500 miles or so but they're pretty lightweight. I have done two sets of blocks since I've had them if that helps any. Running your fingers over the friction surface you can feel definite concavities.
How do they fail? What I mean is do they just get more flimsey so you're forever truing them and get more kinks/dings, or do I have to worry about some kind of catastrophic failure?
How do they fail? What I mean is do they just get more flimsey so you're forever truing them and get more kinks/dings, or do I have to worry about some kind of catastrophic failure?
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Yes they can fail suddenly with a bang and with potential safety implications but you should be ok for a while yet i reckon, 1500 miles is not far. What type of rims are they?
You could try Chris Juden's suggested test of temporarily pumping the tyres up to 50% more than the rated pressure and if they survive that they should be good longer. His other method is to measure rim thickness and if there is still 1mm (I think)left, they are still ok.
You could try Chris Juden's suggested test of temporarily pumping the tyres up to 50% more than the rated pressure and if they survive that they should be good longer. His other method is to measure rim thickness and if there is still 1mm (I think)left, they are still ok.
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
So - I'm running quite wee tyres - carcase pressure rating is about 100psi. Maybe take it up to about 150psi? Sounds a lot! Think I'll wear safety goggles
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Some rims have internal wear markers, so you get a hole in the side of the rim when you pass the wear limit.
Other rims won't have any markers at all.
The way I check for wear on my older rims is to take the track pump and pump the tyre up substantially harder than I'd actually ride on - 160psi or so.
Leave it overnight, and if it doesn't blow up, and the sides don't get more concave than they were, the rim is still OK.
You can also get gauges that will reach round the rim hook to measure the thickness. Below 1mm is starting to get dodgy - the failed rims that I've measured have been at 0.6 to 0.7mm. You've got to take the tyre off to do the measuring.
Failure could be a short crack that makes your brake knock, or if you are unlucky the tyre will explode and you'll get bits of rim flailing about. If you are very unlucky, you are doing 40mph down a steep hill at the time.
Other rims won't have any markers at all.
The way I check for wear on my older rims is to take the track pump and pump the tyre up substantially harder than I'd actually ride on - 160psi or so.
Leave it overnight, and if it doesn't blow up, and the sides don't get more concave than they were, the rim is still OK.
You can also get gauges that will reach round the rim hook to measure the thickness. Below 1mm is starting to get dodgy - the failed rims that I've measured have been at 0.6 to 0.7mm. You've got to take the tyre off to do the measuring.
Failure could be a short crack that makes your brake knock, or if you are unlucky the tyre will explode and you'll get bits of rim flailing about. If you are very unlucky, you are doing 40mph down a steep hill at the time.
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Here are links to Chris Juden's information and tests for rim wear :
http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Magazine/20011163.pdf
http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3827
Read your way through the second one as there are various interesting snippets all the way through
http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Magazine/20011163.pdf
http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3827
Read your way through the second one as there are various interesting snippets all the way through
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Thanks - very helful. I'll have a look today - seems like something to keep an eye on. A collapsing wheel throwing thin shards of alli alloy around would not be an improvement to my commute. Actully, both wheels are disc capable, so maybe a word to Father X might be a good idea!
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
andrew_s wrote:if you are unlucky the tyre will explode and you'll get bits of rim flailing about. If you are very unlucky, you are doing 40mph down a steep hill at the time.
PS - I do tend to be fairly unlucky
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
thekelticfringe wrote:So - I'm running quite wee tyres - carcase pressure rating is about 100psi. Maybe take it up to about 150psi? Sounds a lot! Think I'll wear safety goggles
...and ear-plugs. I did this test in my garage a few weeks ago and the rim burst like a gunshot. I was glad it happened there and not during a fast descent.
Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Another quick and very unscientific way of assessing wear is to butt a steel rule up to the rim, edge on. I think rim design allows for at least 1mm of wear (could be more). The daylight showing between the rule and the rim can then be assessed, if you're confident in estimating measurements. Not ideal, but quick.
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Have a look at my "In the garage" posting in the On the road section for a photo of what an exploding rim looks like!
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Re: rim wear with V-Brakes
Just to say thanks for all the advice. I'll get a regular programme of checking, as it sounds like a hazard that is easy to avoid, but could be quite nasty!
FWIW I worked out that my commute alone is about 5K miles a year, ignoring any leisure/pleasure cycling. It's a fairly hilly route, involves short stretches of gravel/un-sealed surfaces, and concludes in the city so there is appreciable use of the brakes no matter how kamikaze I'm feeling, so that could mean new rims every year!!
Discs might be the solution, I think.
FWIW I worked out that my commute alone is about 5K miles a year, ignoring any leisure/pleasure cycling. It's a fairly hilly route, involves short stretches of gravel/un-sealed surfaces, and concludes in the city so there is appreciable use of the brakes no matter how kamikaze I'm feeling, so that could mean new rims every year!!
Discs might be the solution, I think.
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