hubgearfreak wrote:remember, REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE, in that order
I couldn't agree more. That's why we reduce our use of throw-away disposables, and reuse our cotton nappies again and again
hubgearfreak wrote:remember, REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE, in that order
Fonant wrote:hubgearfreak wrote:remember, REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE, in that order
I couldn't agree more. That's why we reduce our use of throw-away disposables, and reuse our cotton nappies again and again
pickles wrote:Surely having children at all is about the worst thing you can do environmentally?.
pickles wrote:Surely having children at all is about the worst thing you can do environmentally?
hubgearfreak wrote:but it does raise the question of the importance of nappies
old-n-stressed wrote:I'd also like to do other stuff, but when you see a 5.0L Range Rover roar past you with one occupant on the ride to work, you realise that we're all going to hell in a handbasket.
malakoffee wrote:old-n-stressed wrote:I'd also like to do other stuff, but when you see a 5.0L Range Rover roar past you with one occupant on the ride to work, you realise that we're all going to hell in a handbasket.
It's good to hear that you are doing your bit too, however, I fear that you are right in your final statement. What we require to reduce the rate of the increasing damage is nothing less than the complete inversion of materialistic values. Where the wasteful showoff is shunned and held in low-esteem by society. The bloke with shiny, big car & house doesn't get the girl and is seen as ignorant and selfish.
It has taken us hundreds of generations & thousands of years to get to our current cultural values. Do you think we can change it all in the blink of an eye ??
What earthly good is celebrity if all it does is sell more of the things we don't need, but aspire to?
...The bloke with shiny, big car & house.... It has taken us hundreds of generations & thousands of years to get to our current cultural values.
Fonant wrote:pickles wrote:Surely having children at all is about the worst thing you can do environmentally?
Depends what you mean by being good environmentally. I take it to mean preserving our environment so that mankind can continue to exist in reasonable comfort, without selfishly consuming finite resources. It's really about being careful now, so that we all don't suffer from pollution, lack of energy, global warming, etc. in decades to come.
If you think mankind is generally a Bad Thing, then stopping having children would indeed be a Good Thing. But then you'd get into discussions about the meaning of life, the need to reproduce, etc.