Plusses
Plusses
Does anyone still ride in them? I know the more sporty type of cyclists use the term "plus Two wearers" in a disparaging way about the CTC, but surely it's years since anyone seriously cycled in them, apart from "classic bicycle" riders?
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thirdcrank
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I always understood that Plus 4's were so called because they required 4" more cloth. (I got that from my dear old dad who was in the textile trade.)
I also understood that once upon a time, when people wore suits much more than they do now, that it was quite common among the better off to have a suit made with both plus 4's and conventional trousers, for wear according to use. (Go to a posh outfitters in a shooting area and this sort of thing still is available.)
Plus two's were just a bit more sporty. It was only recently that Tudor seemed to stop doing their version of plusses. I wore them for years and the main problem was that the cotton fabric was useless when wet. I thought that bibknicks (or whatever you call them) were the modern equivalent. The main point in cycling terms is that they keep your knees warm when the weather looks warm but it isn't. (I am unable to say if bibknicks have been adopted by the golfing, or huntin',shootin', fishin', communities but I doubt it.)
The progress of the cycling fashion was, as is so often the case, captured by Helms. Baz gave way to Honk with the demise of plus 2's.
I also understood that once upon a time, when people wore suits much more than they do now, that it was quite common among the better off to have a suit made with both plus 4's and conventional trousers, for wear according to use. (Go to a posh outfitters in a shooting area and this sort of thing still is available.)
Plus two's were just a bit more sporty. It was only recently that Tudor seemed to stop doing their version of plusses. I wore them for years and the main problem was that the cotton fabric was useless when wet. I thought that bibknicks (or whatever you call them) were the modern equivalent. The main point in cycling terms is that they keep your knees warm when the weather looks warm but it isn't. (I am unable to say if bibknicks have been adopted by the golfing, or huntin',shootin', fishin', communities but I doubt it.)
The progress of the cycling fashion was, as is so often the case, captured by Helms. Baz gave way to Honk with the demise of plus 2's.
Si wrote:IIRC Ralpha have started to make a modern version of them - no doubt in the hope of appealing to the retro chic / courier-look market. Bloody expensive through.
If anyone knows of somewhere that sellsmore traditional/affordable ones, then I'd be interested!
http://www.spencers-trousers.com/plus_twos.php
robbo wrote:Si wrote:IIRC Ralpha have started to make a modern version of them - no doubt in the hope of appealing to the retro chic / courier-look market. Bloody expensive through.
If anyone knows of somewhere that sellsmore traditional/affordable ones, then I'd be interested!
http://www.spencers-trousers.com/plus_twos.php
Blimey, nice but what a price. No doubt a lot of craftmanship goes into their making, but a little to costly for me!
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Charlie
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Charlie
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reohn2
Try http://www.alexander-james.co.uk/ my brother in law's company and The Daily Telegraph's rural retailer of the year 2007.He will make made to measure or off the peg.All his stuff is made in England and all materials are made in the UK. 
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Karen Sutton
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