meic wrote:Today, unusually, for once I agree with a Judge. :mrgreen:
Likewise.
Some of those appearing in the trial telling of their experiences made him sound like ... well I wont say 'cos I don't want him going after me as well.
Ian
meic wrote:Today, unusually, for once I agree with a Judge. :mrgreen:
Regulator wrote:If anyone wants show their support for Mr Mitchell, and highlight how poorly cyclists are dealt with by the police and other authority figures , his email is: andrew.mitchell.mp@parliament.uk
meic wrote:Today, unusually, for once I agree with a Judge.
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The ch 4 news presenter at 7 was a bit OTT, also what about the SEVEN police that have been sent to jail - kicked out - under investigation.
To me the " *&^%$£" Pleb" in so minor compared with the obvious conspiracy of the police officers.
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,meic wrote:Today, unusually, for once I agree with a Judge. :mrgreen:
Would you like to be found guilty on... "All Probable likelyhood" :?:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Also PC anti bike jobsworth ...
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:The Insulted Policeman lied about the "Witnesses" that were at the gate
Thats OK then..............
irc wrote:NATURAL ANKLING wrote:The Insulted Policeman lied about the "Witnesses" that were at the gate :!:
Thats OK then..............
Did he? Did the judge say that today?
The CCTV shows several witnesses outside the gate.
https://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2012 ... -c4-claim/
Mitchell lost his temper
The judge said the MP was not in a state of mind that evening either to measure his words carefully or remember precisely what they were. He was satisfied that Mitchell did lose his temper and it was part of common experience of life that a loss of temper could lead both to loss of inhibition in speaking and recollection of what was said. “It follows that his adamant denial of uttering the words alleged is not of itself determinative of the issues.”
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:But the police officers who went to jail etc, etc, show some obvious agreement / whatever, call it anything you like, in behaviour that does need closer scutiny, on the basis of "why did seven police officers (3 still under investagation) do what they did....am I the only one who thinks this runs much deeper or am I a sad old fart :?:
Psamathe wrote:I think there are actually two stories/issues here.
AndyK wrote:Psamathe wrote:I think there are actually two stories/issues here.
Three, actually. Bringing it back on topic for this forum, I'd like to know whether the Met Police still has a policy of treating government ministers like plebs - sorry, second-class citizens - if they choose to ride a bike rather than be driven round in the ministerial limo? In the excitement everyone's forgotten that the altercation started because by choosing to cycle, Mr Mitchell suddenly wasn't important enough to have the main gate opened for him.
Psamathe wrote:AndyK wrote:Psamathe wrote:I think there are actually two stories/issues here.
Three, actually. Bringing it back on topic for this forum, I'd like to know whether the Met Police still has a policy of treating government ministers like plebs - sorry, second-class citizens - if they choose to ride a bike rather than be driven round in the ministerial limo? In the excitement everyone's forgotten that the altercation started because by choosing to cycle, Mr Mitchell suddenly wasn't important enough to have the main gate opened for him.
My impression is that it (Security Policy) has nothing to do with bikes but is about security (i.e. open the main gates as rarely as possible as they represent a greater risk). I don't get the impression this is anti-cycling at all.