English Language - what "Does your head in" ??

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Mick F wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 5:40pm Why do YOU think they are incorrect?
I haven't said that it was...

... but you have. And I'm interested in what criteria or authority you use to identify the pronunciation of English words as correct or incorrect.

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Mick F wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 5:19pm Heard on R4 just now, a Tory politician (can't be bothered to even know who he is) saying that he "reconizes" the issue.
Greg Something or someone.
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What does my head in is "that's something we're looking into". Looking my @rse, what's needed is a government that does something!
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Mick F wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 5:31pmReconise ............... why do they pronounce words incorrectly?
"Reconise" is pretty common usage in some parts of the country.

Maybe the French influence? (no "g" in reconnaître).
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DaveReading wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 7:08pm
Mick F wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 5:31pmReconise ............... why do they pronounce words incorrectly?
"Reconise" is pretty common usage in some parts of the country.

Maybe the French influence? (no "g" in reconnaître).
It did come into English from French... and yet French (and Norman French) doesn't have the g. Which is interesting. The g was probably added by someone who was familiar with the Latin.

And the dropped g is very common, as you say.

And I suspect that the RP version has now predominantly dropped the o as in dog to u as in bug.

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MickF,tha fer Wiggin,awe country pr'naences ever'thin wrung 'cept thee un me,thy owt kno that lad :roll:
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Nah, it was "tra'er" where I grew up.
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Twenny - twenny two makes my teeth itch when I hear it said on the radio, I probably wouldn't notice if it was used whilst I was in conversation with someone, doubly annoying. It doesn't matter if it's correct or incorrect language really, the thread title says it all, it's just a personal trivial annoyance. I seem to recall that Graham started the thread to catch out the pedantic, just for a bit of fun, remember fun on this forum ?
No in depth analysis required, that does do my 'ead in, that do.
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Graham wrote:
I'm starting this thread to winkle out all the pedantic over-fifties. Just when they think they've finally got a platform for their linguistic pompousness and I've given them enough rope to hang themselves with their ridiculous grammatical moans, I'll let all the anti-pedants take fire. This is going to be glorious fun!
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Coming from a Cockney family I am no language pedant. If something is black its as black as Newgits knocker! The Old Bill were the Coppers never the Old Bill.
After recently marrying a Leicestershire Lass I am learning lots of new expressions and words

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colin54 wrote: 30 Jun 2022, 11:17am Twenny - twenny two makes my teeth itch when I hear it said on the radio, I probably wouldn't notice if it was used whilst I was in conversation with someone, doubly annoying. It doesn't matter if it's correct or incorrect language really, the thread title says it all, it's just a personal trivial annoyance. I seem to recall that Graham started the thread to catch out the pedantic, just for a bit of fun, remember fun on this forum ?
No in depth analysis required, that does do my 'ead in, that do.
It's yed not 'ead :wink:
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reohn2 wrote: 30 Jun 2022, 6:31pm
It's yed not 'ead :wink:
Give us a chance J, I'm still gettin' me yed around Skemmersdale.
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colin54 wrote: 30 Jun 2022, 6:40pm
reohn2 wrote: 30 Jun 2022, 6:31pm
It's yed not 'ead :wink:
Give us a chance J, I'm still gettin' me yed around Skemmersdale.
I'll let thee off this time owd lad :wink:

PS,Skem spaek is corrupted wi' scouse :roll:
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Skem.
I remember it before it was a "new town" but just a village. We lived in Newburgh.
The Skem (new town) sign was erected just after you leave Newburgh on Cobs Brow Lane. Always seemed wrong to me as on the other side of the sign was mile after mile of open countryside.

I see it's gone now. Quite right too!

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.58080 ... 384!8i8192
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I think 'Old Skem' would be a good name for a dog.
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