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Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 9:45pm
by JohnW
appolo wrote:I agree with most of the above.Not sure about the flapjacks though. Now ,if was home made oggies, there would be no doubt at all!


You're going to have to tell us appolo, what are oggies?

As kids in the 1940s, we used to have things that are now described, in certain parts of the country, as "Flapjacks" - this was before we adopted Yank names for everything. They were basically oats - sometimes porridge oats, sometimes oatmeal, depending on what could be obtained, and bound and sweetened with syrup/treacle again whichever could be obtained, with raisins or glace cherries or currants or even nothing if dried fruit wasn't available. I think that margarine was used in place of butter in more urban areas, and rarely a bit of nutmeg/ginger/cinnamon. They were usually a bit chewey but sometimes, particularly if there was no dried fruit, they were baked thinner and crisper. Eventually, as rationing finished and people could afford more, these things became out of vogue, and were relegated in my memory as a part of austerity.

The thing is, I don't remember these ever having a name!! As the years went by, we discovered the Yank term of "flapjacks", which were actually the un-named sweetmeats of earlier memory.

In more recent times, when my wife and I made similar treats for our children, we still didn't have a name for them!!

I still don't know what we called them.

There is, however, more to cycling than flapjacks - goodish bonk rations though if you can keep the fat content low.

JohnW.

Posted: 14 Jan 2008, 10:08pm
by Mick F
An 'Oggie' is a Westcountry name for a Cornish Pasty.

I use the term "Cornish" advisedly. Cornish people don't usually refer to them as Oggies. I think Devon, and Plymouth people use the term most.

The Cornish call them "Pasties" - pronounced 'parrr-stiz'.

As for flapjacks, I agree it's a US term.

Tracker Bars are good for relieving bonk.

Posted: 16 Jan 2008, 12:18am
by JohnW
Mick F wrote:
Tracker Bars are good for relieving bonk.


Yes, aren't they? I also like Tesco Chewy Fruit and Oat Cookies (another American word), Sesame Snaps and Thorntons' Marzipan Bars - the latter are especially good in an emergency; they get into the blood stream very quickly. Have you tried tinned rice pudding? - I once did an experiment and did a 140 mile ride on only that and water - it actually worked a treat but very boring towards the end. I can't now remember how many tins, but the saddlebag was heavy to start with.

JohnW.

Posted: 16 Jan 2008, 7:39am
by drossall
JohnW wrote:Have you tried tinned rice pudding?

Used to be popular with 12/24 hour riders - your helpers can hand it up in a bottle, which may have had the top cut off. I also used to have a recipe for "rice cake", sort of half way between flapjack and rice pudding, used in such events.

We're getting a bit OT, although maybe not...

Posted: 16 Jan 2008, 6:47pm
by JohnW
We're getting a bit OT, although maybe not...[/quote]

I don't know about that, bonk prevention and bonk rations are very important.

It is true however, that Charlotte's changes seem to have slipped behind a cloud.

JohnW.