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So, I ordered a frame in colour 3. Picked it up today and on first glance it wasn't really what I was expecting but I thought maybe my memory was playing tricks on me. Now I have got it home I am really not sure that it is the colour I asked for. Looks a bit Disney princess to me (and I am definitely not that type of girl).

My husband reckons it has been painted in the wrong colour - I wondered what you wise people thought before I make any phone calls (I hate this sort of thing!).

Would you expect that much colour difference or Is it my eyes or what?

Number 2 is close to it when you compare it to the shaded area [emoji1]

I've no experience of getting frames painted and so am not familiar with what colour differences are to be expected but that one [as it looks on my screen] is so far off the mark that I wouldn't consider it the same colour and, with the most accommodating tolerance I can muster, would not consider that a match.

As Paulatic says though, the part of the forks in the shade match colour two almost exactly.

I took the liberty of quickly cloning the colour swatches over the frame for ease of reference:

Did you see a sample of the colour before ordering? Sometimes the colour on a monitor is quite a way off, many paint suppliers mention this. Also did the colour have a name? The one you have looks like the one usually called Pepermint. If you're not happy with it, tell them and see what the reaction is.

No, I didn't see a sample - Verde Aqua metallic, here:

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/metallics.htm

PH wrote:Did you see a sample of the colour before ordering? Sometimes the colour on a monitor is quite a way off...

This is very true - I would not trust my cheap and not-calibrated monitor for any serious colour work other than comparing on-screen colours. Ambient light will make a difference too (both on the frame and in the computer room) - as is illustrated by the match of colour '2' on the shaded fork compared to the top tube.

They don't have swatches available in the shop I use, not an option.

Does anyone think that it is the same colour then? We have three macs here, two iPads and a couple of iPhones - the sample doesn't look turquoise on any of them whereas the bike does.

I was expecting more of this tone, which is an old car of ours I loved the colour of.

Found BJs colour charts, no it doesn't look like the same colour to me, it looks more like the peppermint in this batch
http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/enamels.htm

Is it matalic?

It is metallic, not overtly metallic but yes, there is a bit of sparkle in there.

This whole area is a bit of a minefield.

Your monitor needs to be profiled and checked frequently. Most people don't bother and don't need to, essential if you work in the graphic or photographic trades.
What colour profile are you using, are the pictures or screen grabs using the same colour profile?
If you photographed the frame what lighting was used and what white balance was your camera set to?

Certainly check with the paint shop, but do be careful you are comparing like with like.

Bensons wrote:
I was expecting more of this tone, which is an old car of ours I loved the colour of.

A picture of a car taken in the shade like this is unlikely to be an accurate colour rendition. It is likely to be far too cold in colour temperature.

Just performing a quick white balance selection on the dormer gives this correction.

Des, I know what colour my car was, I know it wasn't the best photo but it was the only one I could find and it was similar to my aim colour wise, not exact but similar. We had another frame from Bob J earlier this year and the paint colour was as it showed on our screens so I didn't expect anything else, certainly not a peppermint nightmare.

I don't work in the photographic industry, nor do I know what a colour profile is.

I expected a similar colour to that shown given that the other bike turned out fairly well. Exact representation - no - but a fairly good one for the average man in the street who has to rely on a screen photo because swatches aren't available.

Bensons wrote: We had another frame from Bob J earlier this year and the paint colour was as it showed on our screens so I didn't expect anything else, certainly not a peppermint nightmare.

I expected a similar colour to that shown given that the other bike turned out fairly well. Exact representation - no - but a fairly good one for the average man in the street who has to rely on a screen photo because swatches aren't available.

With that evidence, what you had before matching within expectations, then it does seem you may not have the right colour.

Interestingly, when I saw the colour I thought peppermint and Bob Jackson. A friend had a bike refurbished in this colour and also I had a Tom Board frame repainted by Bob Jackson the other year in the same peppermint for another friend, with gold lug-lining - her choice and that's why I recognised it. Have looked at the BJ website colour charts and looks like peppermint in the picture you've submitted. Had a quick search for a photo of her frame when I picked it up from BJ but can only find some pictures with her bike in Brittany this summer. Have attached part of a rather poor one but does look the same colour - the BJ label is visible at bottom of the seat tube. Coincidentally, she's staying with us for the week at the moment so can see if she can remember when it was done.



Getting a bike repainted should be a good moment, not disappointing - I do hope you're able to get this sorted out amicably with BJ.

the colour you wanted is an old vintage favourite i think called colloquially as '' il'de nil '' or nile water a watery under leaf shade of light green.. and in no way resembles the end result from the company with whom you contracted for the frameset.. this as far as i would be concerned is a breach and quite literally they are hoping you will accept the mistake .. some would.. and that's what they are after.. stand your ground and have it in the contracted paint shade.. will