My weight and fitness

[sjs]

The sitting and walking stats from Livestrong.com A very reliable source.

Cycling energy burned from comprehensive longitudinal study published by Glasgow University April 2016

Of which I was a cycling participant

Those online calculator's only tell gullible people what they want to hear!

Burning 250cals/h at low speed over flat terrain is not enough to lose any appreciable weight. That's half a Mars bar!!

No pain, no gain(loss)!

Actually 250kcal is more or less a whole Mars bar.

[Mick F]

I have two or three pints of (normal strength) beer a day, and sometimes four or five at the weekends. I never drink to excess.

This doesn't quite add up if they're saying the advisory limit should be 14 units (or 7 pints).

She said what she said, and she's a dietician, so I've taken her words as "truth". This was on Friday afternoon 8th Jan.

She knows more about diet and lifestyle than I will ever know.

[SpannerGeek]

Thanks. I did watch the programme when it went out. I think you're trying the start an argument in an empty room approach.

+1.

A single BBC lifestyle prog does not science make. I go to the gym but only to improve muscle mass, I've never lost a pound there (only in the lockers!) even the running machines are low impact/intensity exercises. Hard work and a good diet will give results. Anyone who believes the opposite of that is a fool to themselves.

I lost 11kg last year. It's probably saved my life. It was very hard and physically challenging and emotional .

But I was FAT, and I was unhappy about it and my blood pressure was sky high. Nothing good ever comes easy.

[SpannerGeek]

I have two or three pints of (normal strength) beer a day, and sometimes four or five at the weekends. I never drink to excess.

This doesn't quite add up if they're saying the advisory limit should be 14 units (or 7 pints).

She said what she said, and she's a dietician, so I've taken her words as "truth". This was on Friday afternoon 8th Jan.

She knows more about diet and lifestyle than I will ever know.

I drink roughly the same as you Mick I drink more red wine than beer though and at a recent medical the consultant said he was very happy with my liver function and intake. The recent guidelines are just more nanny state garbage. If the medical profession stuck to 14 units the entire system would collapse overnight!

[Mark1978]

Thanks. I did watch the programme when it went out. I think you're trying the start an argument in an empty room approach.

+1.

A single BBC lifestyle prog does not science make. I go to the gym but only to improve muscle mass, I've never lost a pound there (only in the lockers!) even the running machines are low impact/intensity exercises. Hard work and a good diet will give results. Anyone who believes the opposite of that is a fool to themselves.

I lost 11kg last year. It's probably saved my life. It was very hard and physically challenging and emotional .

But I was FAT, and I was unhappy about it and my blood pressure was sky high. Nothing good ever comes easy.

The workouts the people were doing at home were quite specific and proscribed and from what I could see was mostly aimed at strength training.

It's certainly true that pottering around the house doing things is going to be better for you than sitting down watching TV, but I hope people don't take away the idea that proper exercise sessions are pointless. As doing the hoovering isn't going to get the same weight loss results as an hour long high intensity bike ride - for example.

[PH]

. Hard work and a good diet will give results. Anyone who believes the opposite of that is a fool to themselves.

For the last couple of months I’ve tried to lower my calorie intake by 500 a day and do some extra low intensity exercise every day, either riding the long way home along an easy riverside path and/or going for a half hour walk after lunch. Nothing there that anyone could call pain, nothing intense enough to put me out of breath. Over the same period I’ve also done some tough long rides, but nothing I wasn’t doing before and I’ve been eating on these the same as usual.
That must put me well into your fool category, thanks. But why should I care about your theories? I’ve lost 6kg in 8 weeks, that’s not quite the 7,000 calories = 1 kg, but it isn’t that far short so I’ll continue being foolish.

A single BBC lifestyle prog does not science make

Of course not, but neither does any internet forum.

[Mick F]

I drink roughly the same as you Mick I drink more red wine than beer though and at a recent medical the consultant said he was very happy with my liver function and intake. The recent guidelines are just more nanny state garbage. If the medical profession stuck to 14 units the entire system would collapse overnight!

Exactly!

Out in Plymouth yesterday with friends to see the panto matinee. We went in by train, and walked across town to Wetherspoons for lunch. Quick snacky meal and I sank two pints of Abbot Ale.
After the panto, we had a bit of a pub crawl on the way back to the train. Noah's Ark for a pint, then The Eagle for a pint, then The Haymarket for a pint. Back by train and down to The Rising Sun for a pint on the way home.

Six pints 11:30am to 8:30pm.

[mjr]

Six pints 11:30am to 8:30pm.

You are William Hague AICM5P

[MikeF]

The sitting and walking stats from Livestrong.com A very reliable source.

I look forward to that being available, it'll be interesting to see how they arrived at such different figures to everyone else who has researched it.
In the meantime, what we do have is the source you consider to be very reliable. They claim that cycling 10 - 12 mph will burn 47 calories per mile if you weigh 190lb*, that's roughly 470 - 565. which is where I came in...
It jumps right down to 32 per mile if you weigh 130lb, they don't give the figure but I imagine it also jumps up if you weigh more than the 190.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/13543 ... -one-mile/

Hmm. This is "light cycling". Given that most of the effort will be against air resistance why does a heavier person burn more calories? If the ground is flattish then there will be very little difference.

[irc]

Hmm. This is "light cycling". Given that most of the effort will be against air resistance why does a heavier person burn more calories? If the ground is flattish then there will be very little difference.

On average a heavy person is bigger and so more air resistance. A "big boned" person (such as myself) is also burning more calories spinning legs that are heavier than a skelf. Etc etc.


As for weight loss? It really is about lifestyle and calorie balance. On my 2/3 month tours I drop around 30 pounds without any effort. More exercise and less calories. Both through choice and opportunity. At home I'll never be out on the bike before I've eaten. On tour I might be camped somewhere rural and have to ride 15 or 20 miles before breakfast. Or my breakfast might be just a banana. I don't snack. I'll ride for miles and might get a Subway at 5pm camp at 8pm and not eat until breakfast at 9pm the next day. At home there is no way I'm going from 5pm to 9am without a snack.

Strangely I very rarely get bonked. I think the body adjusts to long periods of low level exercise with small meals. To lost 30 pounds in 2/3 months my daily calorie deficit must be around 1000-1500. No way i could do that at home.

[SpannerGeek]

Hmm. This is "light cycling". Given that most of the effort will be against air resistance why does a heavier person burn more calories? If the ground is flattish then there will be very little difference.

On average a heavy person is bigger and so more air resistance. A "big boned" person (such as myself) is also burning more calories spinning legs that are heavier than a skelf. Etc etc.


As for weight loss? It really is about lifestyle and calorie balance. On my 2/3 month tours I drop around 30 pounds without any effort. More exercise and less calories. Both through choice and opportunity. At home I'll never be out on the bike before I've eaten. On tour I might be camped somewhere rural and have to ride 15 or 20 miles before breakfast. Or my breakfast might be just a banana. I don't snack. I'll ride for miles and might get a Subway at 5pm camp at 8pm and not eat until breakfast at 9pm the next day. At home there is no way I'm going from 5pm to 9am without a snack.

Strangely I very rarely get bonked. I think the body adjusts to long periods of low level exercise with small meals. To lost 30 pounds in 2/3 months my daily calorie deficit must be around 1000-1500. No way i could do that at home.

The extra calorie burn of a 'larger' person has little to do with air resistance and almost all of that will be extra calories required just to maintain their metabolism at rest. Fat takes quite a lot of energy to maintain itself, you have to eat more to stay fat! A normal weight man requires about 2000 calories a day to go about their business, am overweight man c.3000 just to maintain their weight (which the body is always keen to do) that's why you get an average of RDA of 2500 calories.

You may have lost 30lbs via 'light' cycling but touring everyday in such conditions is not normal cycling. I'm now coaching my brother to lose 10kg, and his daily deficit will be about 1800 calories a day, and is on target to lose 1-1.5kg per week.. A lot of high intensity training is built into his week, as well as a long ride (70+ miles) each weekend at a good pace, plus weight training in the gym. I'm not saying you method isn't good but it did take quite a long time and few people have the luxury of time off for grand tours