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Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 11:17am
by AndyK
gaz wrote:Branding Kit.


That's the one. Packed full of cuddly rounded FF Cocon font goodness. :-) Not a Times New Roman to be seen.

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 11:22am
by gaz
It loses a lot in a cut and paste translation. I should have looked for it from an official source sooner, live and learn :mrgreen: .

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 12:22pm
by Karen Sutton
Thank gaz. Very odd. The one I had before is definitely different. I got it from Dennis Snape's Facebook group page. But I was looking at it on the PC, not the tabet I'm using now.

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 12:33pm
by Ron
Interesting to see that Scotland and Wales have their own variation of the logo, but not England and Northern Ireland :( .
In the blurb, the Big Bike Revival is shown headed by a UK wide logo although the BBR was an England only event, confusing for readers.

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 1:41pm
by robgul
Karen Sutton wrote:
Karen Sutton wrote:It looks like Times Roman in the kit to me.


To be clearer, in the re-brand kit the new name plus strapline is printed several times in blue and yellow but the font is Times New Roman, not Cocon.


The answer is simple - the WORD doc that was issued does not have the Cocon font "embedded" in it - that means that if you don't have Cocon installed on your machine it substitutes a default font - usually Times New Roman. A PDF is really just a picture of the document it's made from and that will embed the correct fonts (usually ... depends on the pdf creator.) - that's why the pdf looks "correct" [I use the word "correct" as being it's the "right process" ... not the "right answer" :twisted: ]

To send out the original Word doc without the Cocon font embedded was an error that probably even the office junior wouldn't have made.

Rob

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 1:45pm
by Philip Benstead
robgul wrote:
Karen Sutton wrote:
Karen Sutton wrote:It looks like Times Roman in the kit to me.


To be clearer, in the re-brand kit the new name plus strapline is printed several times in blue and yellow but the font is Times New Roman, not Cocon.


The answer is simple - the WORD doc that was issued does not have the Cocon font "embedded" in it - that means that if you don't have Cocon installed on your machine it substitutes a default font - usually Times New Roman. A PDF is really just a picture of the document it's made from and that will embed the correct fonts (usually ... depends on the pdf creator.) - that's why the pdf looks "correct" [I use the word "correct" as being it's the "right process" ... not the "right answer" :twisted: ]

To send out the original Word doc without the Cocon font embedded was an error that probably even the office junior wouldn't have made.

Rob
I am the guilty man here sorry

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 1:53pm
by Karen Sutton
At least I know it wasn't me.

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 3:01pm
by Si
Go Cocon, after all, what have the Times New Romans ever done for us?

Re: We are Cycling UK Into - What is your view

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 5:19pm
by robgul
Karen Sutton wrote:At least I know it wasn't me.


Just for once I think Philip Benstead may be wrong - I'm pretty sure that the stuff Dennis got (that you then found) was sent to him by Julie Rand at CTC as part of a broadcast mailshot to all MG secretaries - that was in Word format and had the font issue.

Dennis, as Secretary of the HoECC affiliated club had forwarded it to me as a member o0f the club. We have added the CTC/CUK documents to the Library area at http://www.heartofenglandcyclingclub.org.uk under the "Conversion" section where there is also document published (by popular request from about 30 people) that explains why and how we went about forming HoECC as an affiliated club and dissolving the CTC Heart of England Member Group

Rob