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What does the CTC need to do get notice?

IMHO we need our own Chris Boardman
We have no body to speak for us, Jon Snow is too busy doing the news but is he any good promoting the CTC?
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The problem is that it's hard to think of another Chris Boardman. The people who talk as much sense as him don't have a high enough public profile, and the people with a high enough public profile don't talk as much sense.

How about kidnapping Wiggins and subjecting him to some sort of particularly robust brainwashing procedure?

Bez wrote:How about kidnapping Wiggins and subjecting him to some sort of particularly robust brainwashing procedure?

Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.

Wiggo, you are confident in dominating the cycling landscape, have a passionate voice and are warm and welcoming to all types of cycling. You are Cycling UK.

Three, two, one... You're back in the room.

gaz wrote:

Bez wrote:How about kidnapping Wiggins and subjecting him to some sort of particularly robust brainwashing procedure?

Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.

Wiggo, you are confident in dominating the cycling landscape, have a passionate voice and are warm and welcoming to all types of cycling. You are Cycling UK.

Three, two, one... You're back in the room.

BTW Does "We are Macmillan" tell a story, they had to put cancer support to complete the picture.
A name has to be self-contained. Cycling UK suggest completive cycling.

You are comparing a name "Cycling UK" to a brand "We are Macmillan. Cancer Support."

The whole brand is "We are Cycling UK. The cyclists' champion." The brand format is who we are followed by what we do, the same format as the Macmillan brand.

Macmillan use the name, not the brand for their web address www.macmillian.org.uk , I understand Cycling UK will do the same.

gaz wrote:You are comparing a name "Cycling UK" to a brand "We are Macmillan. Cancer Support."

The whole brand is "We are Cycling UK. The cyclists' champion." The brand format is who we are followed by what we do, the same format as the Macmillan brand.

Macmillan use the name, not the brand for their web address http://www.macmillian.org.uk , I understand Cycling UK will do the same.

But what does macmillen mean it does not tell a story

Philip Benstead wrote:But what does macmillen mean it does not tell a story

Nor does Barnardo's, Terence Higgins, etc. "Cycling UK" is arguably more descriptive (though also more generic) than all of these. I'm not sure quite what point is being made here, other than it definitely not being the one that you started off with

Bez wrote:

Philip Benstead wrote:But what does macmillen mean it does not tell a story

Nor does Barnardo's, Terence Higgins, etc. "Cycling UK" is arguably more descriptive (though also more generic) than all of these. I'm not sure quite what point is being made here, other than it definitely not being the one that you started off with

My point is the reason ctc is not known is because we do not do things to be known for.

Philip Benstead wrote:My point is the reason ctc is not known is because we do not do things to be known for.

I thought your original point was that CTC has an issue (which appears to be that it's not known) because it lacks a sufficiently competent and prominent advocate…?

And if you're now saying the CTC's not currently known, that hardly seems a vindication of the old brand over the new.

Many years ago there was a CTC council motion proposed at the agm, it was voted down.

At the next council meeting Ted King a long standing councillor said “legally the council could ignore this setback but we would be unwise to do so”

I have been told by a severing CTC council that all of this conflict in the CTC has been cause by Paul Tuohy CEO. It been reported to another CTC councillor he said to them if he does not get his way he will leave. At the last council meeting he hardly spoke, much of the meeting was being led by Shivaji Shivapadasundaram CTC Honorary Consulting Solicitor CTC Honorary Consulting Solicitor

Well as long as its hearsay, we have to believe it! Come on.

January's Council minutes have yet to be published. Clearly the brand refresh was on the agenda, so was the governance report prepared by Shivaji Shiva on behalf of Council's Governance Working Group.

Assuming that was one of the the more major items on the agenda it's not really a surprise that Shivaji Shiva led the discussion.

gaz wrote:January's Council minutes have yet to be published. Clearly the brand refresh was on the agenda, so was the governance report prepared by Shivaji Shiva on behalf of Council's Governance Working Group.

Assuming that was one of the the more major items on the agenda it's not really a surprise that Shivaji Shiva led the discussion.

For many years Shivaji Shiva did not attend council meetings and on two occasions I vote against his reappointment, but once PT came on the scene he pop up and now appears to have been promoted. He no long just deals with just the legal aspect, but now appears to take a leading role in strategic business plan /policy development.

This is potent indication of the future of the CTC Council, members of the council no longer elected by the CTC membership but selected by a nomination committee and the membership given Hobson choice?

Hi There, Maybe "El Supremo" should read a couple of books which I can recommend?
"Winged Wheel" by Bill Oakley, then he might know what has driven the CTC since it founding day.
Also "Roads were not built for cars" by Carlton Reid, which will explain how we would still be using cart tracks if the power of the cycling lobby had not prevailed!
Stanley J.A. Cotterell would be spinning in his grave if he knew about the current situation! TTFN MM

Philip Benstead wrote:What does the CTC need to do get notice?

IMHO we need our own Chris Boardman
We have no body to speak for us, Jon Snow is too busy doing the news but is he any good promoting the CTC?................

Philip - we all know how upset you are with what has happened, is still happening, and what's happening in secret that we're not worthy to know about, but please don't bring our patron into it. However you meant your comment, it could be interpreted as a criticism and I for one would view that as unfair.

Having read your posts relating to the demise of the club that was once like an extended family to so many of us, I share your sentiments (or most of them), but please don't bring someone whose fault it isn't into it.

Kindest of regards to you Philip - sincerely.