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Tiberius wrote:
robgul wrote:Not sure if you'd call it a "tool" but my ultrasonic cleaner gets a lot of use

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Rob




Rob.....I know that they use those things in the motorbike world for cleaning gummed up carbs' and the like....

Serious question. What do YOU use it for ??.....I sort of want one but I don't really know why yet (I've bought all sorts of tools for exactly the same reason... :oops: ).....


Cassettes, mechs, brakes, chains (yep - works fine but you then leave the chain in a bath of oil for 3 or 4 days to get the lube into the links) I have to admit that I seem to refurb more than a few old bikes with very dirty parts - but the regular service I do on my top 3 or 4 bikes sees the mechs and cassettes getting a good shake in the bath ... I use water with about half a cup of Screwfix cheapie degreaser bunged in.

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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The copper hide mallet is an engineering tool. I doubt many auto guys own one....


standard equipment if you have knock-off (eg wire) wheels with centre hub nuts

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robgul wrote:

Cassettes, mechs, brakes, chains (yep - works fine but you then leave the chain in a bath of oil for 3 or 4 days to get the lube into the links) I have to admit that I seem to refurb more than a few old bikes with very dirty parts - but the regular service I do on my top 3 or 4 bikes sees the mechs and cassettes getting a good shake in the bath ... I use water with about half a cup of Screwfix cheapie degreaser bunged in.
Rob[/quote]



Intersting......Thanks for the info' Rob......Appreciated...... :)
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I bought a sonic bath too, but much smaller than Rob's.
It gets used from time to time, but not much.

Best way to clean stuff, is to use a small container for your bits and bobs, and immerse them white spirit. Put the container in the bath, and fill the bath with water up to the max mark or until the container just doesn't quite float.
Switch on and leave it running for ages.

It's surprising the muck that comes out into the white spirit.
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Mick F wrote:I bought a sonic bath too,

Best way to clean stuff, is to use a small container for your bits and bobs, and immerse them white spirit. Put the container in the bath, and fill the bath with water up to the max mark or until the container just doesn't quite float.
Switch on and leave it running for ages.

It's surprising the muck that comes out into the white spirit.


Do you get in the bath as well . :shock:

Sorry Mick, couldn't resist . :lol:
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rjb wrote:
Mick F wrote:I bought a sonic bath too,

Best way to clean stuff, is to use a small container for your bits and bobs, and immerse them white spirit. Put the container in the bath, and fill the bath with water up to the max mark or until the container just doesn't quite float.
Switch on and leave it running for ages.

It's surprising the muck that comes out into the white spirit.


Do you get in the bath as well . :shock:

Sorry Mick, couldn't resist . :lol:



would it clean your greasy/dirty hands ? maybe better than Swarfega?
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Hi,
Brucey wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The copper hide mallet is an engineering tool. I doubt many auto guys own one....


standard equipment if you have knock-off (eg wire) wheels with centre hub nuts

cheers


Well I knew someone would question that :D
I have never needed one for mechanics although I might of once or twice if I had one.

Wire wheels......where do you work? Beaulieu :mrgreen:
And to grease or not........................the threads of...............?
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Brucey wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The copper hide mallet is an engineering tool. I doubt many auto guys own one....


standard equipment if you have knock-off (eg wire) wheels with centre hub nuts

cheers


The one I inherited from my father was actually used to knock off centre hub nuts on F1 cars in the fifties and early sixties. Better provenance than most I guess.
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Brucey wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The copper hide mallet is an engineering tool. I doubt many auto guys own one....


standard equipment if you have knock-off (eg wire) wheels with centre hub nuts

cheers


Well I knew someone would question that :D
I have never needed one for mechanics although I might of once or twice if I had one.

Wire wheels......where do you work? Beaulieu :mrgreen:
And to grease or not........................the threads of...............?


I've mostly use my thor mallet on cars, though only on a gentleman amateur basis - and I don't think even my Ford Cortina would have quite made prize exhibit at Beaulieu. Maybe you used a different kind of mallet - eg shot filled, or rubber mallet of some sort to fill the same niche. Presumably you'd not have bashed stuck things with a metal hammer, at least not at first ? I also presume not everything came apart easily without bashing either
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rjb wrote:
Mick F wrote:I bought a sonic bath too,

Best way to clean stuff, is to use a small container for your bits and bobs, and immerse them white spirit. Put the container in the bath, and fill the bath with water up to the max mark or until the container just doesn't quite float.
Switch on and leave it running for ages.

It's surprising the muck that comes out into the white spirit.


Do you get in the bath as well . :shock:

Sorry Mick, couldn't resist . :lol:
Of course!
Getting you bits and bobs clean is very important. :lol:
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Mick F wrote:Getting you bits and bobs clean is very important. :lol:



......especially YOUR Chopper.....

(I know that you flogged it after your JOGLE, but it sort of fitted my crap joke... :D )
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Tiberius wrote:
robgul wrote:

Cassettes, mechs, brakes, chains (yep - works fine but you then leave the chain in a bath of oil for 3 or 4 days to get the lube into the links) I have to admit that I seem to refurb more than a few old bikes with very dirty parts - but the regular service I do on my top 3 or 4 bikes sees the mechs and cassettes getting a good shake in the bath ... I use water with about half a cup of Screwfix cheapie degreaser bunged in.
Rob




Intersting......Thanks for the info' Rob......Appreciated...... :)[/quote]

I forgot to say that I also clean the coffee holders on my espresso machine (we have a plumbed in machine like they have in Costa or Starbucks, but just a "single group") - I do use just water for that and give the bath and basket a good clean first!

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pete75 wrote:
Brucey wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
The copper hide mallet is an engineering tool. I doubt many auto guys own one....


standard equipment if you have knock-off (eg wire) wheels with centre hub nuts

cheers


The one I inherited from my father was actually used to knock off centre hub nuts on F1 cars in the fifties and early sixties. Better provenance than most I guess.


Nice! I recently saw a Fraser-Nash BMW. Under the bonnet, mounted on the bulkhead next to the jack, using special leather straps, was a well-used copper/hide mallet. I had a nice chat with the car's owner; he had owned the car for over fifty years!

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Hi,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallet
I have a hide mallet which has uses like all striking tools.
Used it most for aluminium, tapping the work down onto parallels, rubber bounces too much, metal would damage work.
Rubber one yes, probably used least as it bounces.
Wooden preferred for chiseling wood.
7Ib lump for masionary.

Full range of hammers and it depends on job or size of nail.

14Ib sledge is a tool that is a must have for mechanics if you don't have a hydraulic press, and even if you have its not mobile.
Anything else is futile.
When you meet seized swinging arm bolts on motorcycles there is only one way to remove them, normally reverse the nut on the end of bolt before a clout or many.
Bike laid down on its side, a socket on the down end of bolt, the socket needs to be supported with packing or extenders and on the concrete floor, most will move, I think I abandoned one in total in 10 years.

The main problem with mallets is they do not swing very well like a hammer so you find it hard to get the right blow.
If I was doing it all day and for money today then I would probably buy one, but I am not building generators or transmissions.
A sledge hammer can sometimes be the only way of removing a drive shaft from large wheel bearing, a mallet used with one hand would simply bounce all day long, this is the only way of getting the shaft out of my truck.
Pullers on there own in these cases are useless.
When I was removing alternator rotors on motorcycles (several a day) the puller like a crank puller would not budge the tapered seat.
Some times you would need several tyre levers (3) gently levering the rotor, the puller is done up tight and even then it will not budge, a sharp tap with a standard hammer popped it.
How you use three levers and hit the puller :? Left knee against one, left hand on the other and left forearm on the remainder, then right hand for the hammer :)
Many customers would watch intensely when I arrived to do the task, even their mates would turn up to see how it was done.
This after they had all had a go and wrecked all their tools.
A friend of mine was struggling with a clutch centre on his BSA A 10, puller an all, took me several seconds with a few tyre levers and a sharp tap.
This all comes from working in all weathers every day of the year for money, they wont pay you till the job is done, and as a sole trader your reputation is everything.

Of course you would always guard against damage to the part as much as is possible.

It might sound a bit gruesome to some more refined here but being mobile and repairing in the road and in customers garages means that you need to use what you can carry and load into a back of a van and up stairs, even into their conservatory's.

Removing cycle cranks remain the most difficult for sure :(
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Another use for a 14lb sledge. When I worked on a farm they were used to see if you were a man or a boy. Put the hammer on the ground with the handle pointing up slightly behind you. Get hold of the handle and , keeping your arm straight bring your hand level with your face. Then still keeping your arm straight and using only wrist just touch the end of your nose with the hammer head. Another was to click two 56lb potato weights together over your head with arms straight.
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