Tangled Metal wrote:Northern Ireland has an English loyalist majority not minority. That's probably why they're not part of an all Ireland right now. I'm sure there'll be a lot in northern Ireland offended by being called the loyalty minority!
Except that they are of Scottish origin, not English.
I thought that the population growth rates were such that the Republicans had now passed the Loyalists.
So the Loyalist could be described as a minority *assuming* that political loyalties follow religeous beliefs.
I wouldn't believe Wikipedia figures on an issue of political contention as both sides are probably distorting the truth.
Election results show unionists to be the majority (whatever their religous affiliation) and nationalists the minority (to give them the names they would rather be known as)
Trail Beater wrote:If Scotland is not a nation,how come we have 6 Nations Rugby In saying that,according to the national anthem,we have to "rise and be a nation again"
No, it says "rise and be the nation again", as in the nation "that stood against him"
Tangled Metal wrote:Northern Ireland has an English loyalist majority not minority. That's probably why they're not part of an all Ireland right now. I'm sure there'll be a lot in northern Ireland offended by being called the loyalty minority!
Except that they are of Scottish origin, not English.
Actually from England, Scotland and even Wales if you want accuracy.
Tangled Metal wrote:Northern Ireland has an English loyalist majority not minority. That's probably why they're not part of an all Ireland right now. I'm sure there'll be a lot in northern Ireland offended by being called the loyalty minority!
Except that they are of Scottish origin, not English.
Actually from England, Scotland and even Wales if you want accuracy.
Trail Beater wrote:If Scotland is not a nation,how come we have 6 Nations Rugby In saying that,according to the national anthem,we have to "rise and be a nation again"
No, it says "rise and be the nation again", as in the nation "that stood against him"
Same thing
Is it? "The nation" is a specific nation "A nation" could be any nation
Whatever I am, wherever I am, this is me. This is my life
We're about to get the first French members of the family. Not through marriage just application for citizenship.
My parents are looking at emigrating too. We're joking about moving to.Scotland in the hope of independence. Partner will get work up there but I'm not sure I will.
Thing is I'm not sure I like my country now. Little England won I feel.
Tangled Metal wrote:We're about to get the first French members of the family. Not through marriage just application for citizenship.
My parents are looking at emigrating too. We're joking about moving to.Scotland in the hope of independence. Partner will get work up there but I'm not sure I will.
Thing is I'm not sure I like my country now. Little England won I feel.
I think I understand your feelings to some extent, but I also think you may feel better when things have settled down. I don't see the UK as being more inward looking than before. I don't detect any more anti-foreigner sentiment than before. The majority of those who chose to vote on Thursday voted to leave the EU, for good, honourable reasons, not because they hate anybody. Don't see the bigots you know as representing the UK, or the Leave voters. They don't. And please stop using "Little England". Wales voted out, too. And no, "Little Britain" is just as bad. A charicature. The UK was and remains a land inhabited by predominantly decent people and you should feel positive about it. I think you will when your disappointment has faded.
Tangled Metal wrote:We're about to get the first French members of the family. Not through marriage just application for citizenship.
My parents are looking at emigrating too. We're joking about moving to.Scotland in the hope of independence. Partner will get work up there but I'm not sure I will.
Thing is I'm not sure I like my country now. Little England won I feel.
Group hug!
I have long felt that the only place in the British Isles that I could consider returning to would be Scotland.
I have friends in the UK who will be exercising their rights to Irish nationality soon as a result of Brexit. The last emotional barriers stopping me applying for Norwegian nationality (when I become eligable to do so) have gone. Even my Dad is now musing about applying for citizenship of my mother's country, an ex-Yugoslav state which *is* an EU member state. I *never* thought I'd see the day where he would be prepared to even consider that.
I was in Carpentras last summer, and I was conscious of a level of racism that we rarely see in the UK. And as someone brought up as a Roman Catholic (membership expired decades ago) the only anti-Catholic bigotry directed against me was by a lady from Glasgow who hated all Catholics. My sister-in-law in South West Germany has a German neighbour who openly expresses his hate for the British, and any other foreigner. There are intolerant people everywhere and the UK is no worse than any other country of a similar size. Indeed, I think we have one of the most tolerant countries. Room for improvement, of course.
Trail Beater wrote: Just as well I don't like the stuff I can't spell eh ? Grammar and Pedantic Police out in force today.
You can spell if you meant Whiskey You can't spell if you meant Whisky
If I have a spelling mistake it was 'autocorrect' OK
I don't believe it's being pedantic it is just stopping ambiguity and defining exactly what you meant to say.
It's not often I get pulled up on poor spelling. I'm mad with myself,especially on the national drink. Irn Bru however Anyhoo ,Wee Nicky is onto massive Plums if she thinks the EU will give her special treatment. The UK means ALL of it. It's not even guaranteed if we do get independence. But she knew that 2 years ago.
