meic wrote:How does that fit with the fact that they had the numbers to win the referendum?
You describe a present culture which they are rejecting but if that was the present culture then surely it would have the numbers in the populace to have won the referendum.
Possibly you are not looking at the culture of the whole of the UK, so much as in a selective area, the vote was varied regionally.
Or maybe people didnt vote leave for the reasons that you imagine.
The present culture has been caused by the very people Cugel mentions,big business and it's tamed politrickians who've pointed the finger at minorities for those failings,one only has to looked at the rightwing neoliberal stance of successive governments after and including the Thatcher government.
Neolibralism has done a very good job of the state the country is presently in,with an ever growning resentment of "foreigners" and an ever widening gap between rich and poor.
As for the EU,better the system you known and have a say in how that system works than be on the outside looking in with no control at all over what laws and rules it makes.But let's not forget the good the EU has done for the whole of Europe as more than a common market.
The bunkum espoused about taking back control and immigration is just that ,bunkum,we need immigration and it's only poor government that allows immigrants to be mistreated by a system they have allowed to prosper,you cannot have a fair labour system by cutting back to the bone police,health and safety,and immigration and border control expenditure.
As for taking back control,the present government hasn't got control,but it's not the EU that's stolen it,but their paymasters who dictate the the terms on which they run the show.
Divide and conquer is a term that springs readily to mind and the country is presently very divided and utterly conquered by multi national pay no taxes neolibralism,whilst the people in support think they've taken back control,dream on......