Oh I dont want to be an MP anymore as I have a better job offer

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Flinders
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Bonefishblues wrote:The battle had been lost in his party. He is the occupant of a marginal seat. He is a distinguished Victorian scholar. The job of jobs comes up. He takes it. What's to debate?


Within the art world what's to debate, and what's being debated, is

he is a historian, not an art historian or a design historian. Big difference, actually, before anyone asks
AFAI can find out, he has no qualifications for running a museum (yes, they do exist) or in conservation, museum education or in any relevant area of museum work
he has absolutely no experience of running any kind of museum or gallery
he has absolutely no experience of running a business
Flinders
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Tangled Metal wrote:Not too far from me is Copeland. They've got a byelection coming up too. Selection of the candidate is going to happen soon. All talk is of the momentum and unite supported activist who has been pushed as the Labour candidate of choice by the central Labour party. The local Labour party has been expressing concern over this but it is expected that the local party will have no choice in this. Imposed by head office if you like.

Corbynista candidates don't have tee support of local members everywhere but are still going to get the nod over local's opinions. Still with luck that will backfire due to 2500 majority and the very strong nuclear power support in Copeland. Corbyn is against nuclear power but Copeland, in the majority, is for it and indeed supports a new station being built nearby.

Personally Corbyn's views are left-wing not centre left. That is my opinion. Whether you look at the trident position or nuclear power. It a whole lot of other views. It's not centre left IMHO.



That's interesting as Stoke was the reverse- Progress and the right of the party imposing candidates from outside who had nothing to do with the area, and cutting out local candidates. Hence they got stuck with Hunt, who they didn't want.
landsurfer
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Flinders wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:The battle had been lost in his party. He is the occupant of a marginal seat. He is a distinguished Victorian scholar. The job of jobs comes up. He takes it. What's to debate?


Within the art world what's to debate, and what's being debated, is

he is a historian, not an art historian or a design historian. Big difference, actually, before anyone asks
AFAI can find out, he has no qualifications for running a museum (yes, they do exist) or in conservation, museum education or in any relevant area of museum work
he has absolutely no experience of running any kind of museum or gallery
he has absolutely no experience of running a business


He had no experience of being an MP ... but he gave a go ..... what seat are you standing for ???
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Flinders
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landsurfer wrote:
Flinders wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:The battle had been lost in his party. He is the occupant of a marginal seat. He is a distinguished Victorian scholar. The job of jobs comes up. He takes it. What's to debate?


Within the art world what's to debate, and what's being debated, is

he is a historian, not an art historian or a design historian. Big difference, actually, before anyone asks
AFAI can find out, he has no qualifications for running a museum (yes, they do exist) or in conservation, museum education or in any relevant area of museum work
he has absolutely no experience of running any kind of museum or gallery
he has absolutely no experience of running a business


He had no experience of being an MP ... but he gave a go ..... what seat are you standing for ???


I was explaining to the OP what there was to debate, and why it was an issue in the industry. Would you employ someone to head up your business if you were off sick who had no business experience, no qualifications, and no technical experience in your area? That's what the V&A is doing. Hence that is what is being debated, as I explain.

An MP's job is pretty varied, so you need a variety of people doing it, but all the same, I would not do it as I have no experience of politics at the grass roots. It might have been better had Hunt taken the same view, as we might have saved the money spent on getting a replacement mid-term.
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landsurfer wrote:
He had no experience of being an MP ... but he gave a go ..... what seat are you standing for ???


If you really hate me so much that you have to disagree with me on everything even when I am on the same side as you, why don't you just hide my posts?
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I DONT HATE YOU .. your posts are interesting and incisive .... apologies .. genuinely ..David
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Flinders wrote:
landsurfer wrote:
Flinders wrote:
Within the art world what's to debate, and what's being debated, is

he is a historian, not an art historian or a design historian. Big difference, actually, before anyone asks
AFAI can find out, he has no qualifications for running a museum (yes, they do exist) or in conservation, museum education or in any relevant area of museum work
he has absolutely no experience of running any kind of museum or gallery
he has absolutely no experience of running a business


He had no experience of being an MP ... but he gave a go ..... what seat are you standing for ???


I was explaining to the OP what there was to debate, and why it was an issue in the industry. Would you employ someone to head up your business if you were off sick who had no business experience, no qualifications, and no technical experience in your area? That's what the V&A is doing. Hence that is what is being debated, as I explain.

An MP's job is pretty varied, so you need a variety of people doing it, but all the same, I would not do it as I have no experience of politics at the grass roots. It might have been better had Hunt taken the same view, as we might have saved the money spent on getting a replacement mid-term.

Something tangential to the point being made by the thread's OP then, which was I was (clearly, I thought) responding to.
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landsurfer wrote:I DONT HATE YOU .. your posts are interesting and incisive .... apologies .. genuinely ..David


A wise person once said: it is nice to be with like-minded people but one learns much more from people holding different opinions from one's own.

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Flinders wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:The battle had been lost in his party. He is the occupant of a marginal seat. He is a distinguished Victorian scholar. The job of jobs comes up. He takes it. What's to debate?


Within the art world what's to debate, and what's being debated, is

he is a historian, not an art historian or a design historian. Big difference, actually, before anyone asks
AFAI can find out, he has no qualifications for running a museum (yes, they do exist) or in conservation, museum education or in any relevant area of museum work
he has absolutely no experience of running any kind of museum or gallery
he has absolutely no experience of running a business


One has to start somewhere..

- Mr Clinton, do you think Mr Obama is ready to be president?

- Nobody is ready for that job!
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