Horse riders hit by chelsea tractor on wrong side of road

[Psamathe]

In the viedo I saw (the new paper one wont play for me so I had to watch a youtube copy), there is a break where everything freezes and immediately before the break the car, having stopped, starts to pull away and when the video resumes the car has disappeared. Does the car actually drive-off or just out of shot and do the Police know details of the offending vehicle ?

Ian

From the report "The car can be seen pulling up to the side of the road towards the end of the footage.".

I was having to watch youtube (press video would not play for me) and there are many copies and the one I found had a long freeze so car stopped->freeze->car gone. subsequently fund a better copy showing the car pulling over (off screen but direction suggests it is pulling off the road).

Ian

[meic]

And in this case it's pure luck he didn't.

Not a human at least.
The black and white horse doesnt take another step after the impact.

[reohn2]

It's of course possible. They could also be doing any one of a variety of other things.

Is it likely, such that would be worth speculating was my point, and by speculating thus, I was pointing out what might be an innate prejudice.

I take your point about prejudice.
I am prejudice against some vehicles by the way they're driven,certain types of vehicle tend to have a greater proportion of incompetent idiots and downright self important loonies behind the wheel than others.
Big SUV/4x4's and German prestige cars tend to be the case IME,which is more apparent in their behaviour toward me when I'm on the bike,so I'm naturally more aware of them.

[reohn2]

And in this case it's pure luck he didn't.

Not a human at least.
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The black and white horse doesn't take another step after the impact

Nor does the human lying on the road.

I can think of a few scenarios where either rider and or horse could quite easily been killed,either horse could have fell onto either rider.
The B&W horse looks in shock to me,and the bay horse distances itself from the impact scene,then reacts by trotting off in the opposite direction when the Transit pick up appears on the scene.Two traumatised animals that will need a lot of rehab before they go on a road again I'd guess.

The rider who took the reins of the b&w horse remained very composed in the circumstances IMO.

EDITED for clarity

[meic]

The rider who took the reins of the b&w horse remained very composed in the circumstances IMO.

I am not a horsey person but I imagine they were doing that for the horse's benefit, totally focused on reassuring and calming it.
Again as not a horsey person, if you have four legs and one is broken I would guess that you would just stand there as it did.
Though the Sun reports that horses and riders are not seriously hurt.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3009182/h ... o-the-air/

[thirdcrank]

For anybody who wants this from the horse's mouth the riding school - equestrian centre these days - has a report on horses and riders on its facebook page. I'm not a face booker (if that's the right term post-Kenny Everitt) so I don't know how to link. When I bring it up, it's behind an invitation to joun.

[blinkered]

For anybody who wants this from the horse's mouth the riding school - equestrian centre these days - has a report on horses and riders on its facebook page. I'm not a face booker (if that's the right term post-Kenny Everitt) so I don't know how to link. When I bring it up, it's behind an invitation to joun.

This page I think https://www.facebook.com/WitchamEquestrianCentre/

this quote from the page yesterday:

We would like to say that we are very grateful for the concern that people have shown for both the horses and riders involved in yesterday's accident. We will post progress on the horses as appropriate. Patsy had a good night last night and was eagerly looking for treats this morning! Fleur also was fine this morning. Riders are stiff but ok. We will not be commenting upon the video which has become public and the matter is being dealt with by the police.

[mercalia]

well if the driver couldnt see the horse god help us

video not working now?

[Psamathe]

.....
video not working now?

Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAs5HQ8S5dc (and there are many copies of varying "quality" on youtube.

Video from the press reports never did work on my computer.

Ian

[Bonefishblues]

well if the driver couldnt see the horse god help us

video not working now?

Has it been stated somewhere that the driver claimed not to have seen the horses?

[reohn2]

well if the driver couldnt see the horse god help us

video not working now?

Even if he did seen them,at the speed he was doing he couldn't do much about it,the vehicle was out of his complete control,ie;too fast,poor road conditions,poor vehicle characteristics in that situation,poor judgement,perception seems to be the last thing on his mind

[Bonefishblues]

well if the driver couldnt see the horse god help us

video not working now?

Even if he did seen them,at the speed he was doing he couldn't do much about it,the vehicle was out of his complete control,ie;too fast,poor road conditions,poor vehicle characteristics in that situation,poor judgement,perception seems to be the last thing on his mind

...and brain freeze at the most vital moment imaginable. He could have steered. That collision with animal and human was avoidable even after he'd made the first, dreadful error/been reckless/a.n.o reason

[mercalia]

well if the driver couldnt see the horse god help us

video not working now?

Has it been stated somewhere that the driver claimed not to have seen the horses?

whats that got to do with it?

note the driver in the van that followed after was going at the same speed and he managed to slow down?

[reohn2]

...and brain freeze at the most vital moment imaginable. He could have steered. That collision with animal and human was avoidable even after he'd made the first, dreadful error/been reckless/a.n.o reason

It's a consequence of driving beyond the limit of capability,IMO the vehicle was driving him.
The key problem in this crash is one of waaayyyy to much speed,the vehicle was out of control of the driver and is so graphically illustrated by the way a much bigger and heavier vehicle driven correctly,came to a controlled stop on reaching the scene.

[reohn2]

....note the driver in the van that followed after was going at the same speed and he managed to slow down?

Are you joking?
The Trannie was going much slower,about the correct speed for the road and conditions IMHO