gaz » 10 Mar 2017, 8:07pm
Steady rider wrote:
It just shows how wrong they were to advise not to support Motion 14 in 2016.
Were they?
14) Legal minimum passing clearance
The AGM requests a legal requirement for minimum passing clearance when overtaking or near to cyclists, to try and reduce the frequency of motor vehicles passing too close. On roads with speed limits up to and including 30mph or when passing at a speed up to and including 30mph, a 1m minimum is suggested. On roads with higher speed limits, a 1.5m minimum passing distance is suggested. In addition, on narrow roads frequent passing places should be provided.
Motion 14 called for a law permitting a 1m pass at 30mph. You feel the Trustees should have supported campaigning to introduce a law that would allow a 1.0m overtake at 30mph.
Upthread you posted concerns about the mats.
Steady rider wrote:
... The problem with the mats is they provide the mixed messages, suggesting a 0.75 m distance for the cyclist to kerb, and not being clear about the minimum passing clearance required, say 1.5 m but indicates more like 1.2 m. ...
The Trustees support the use of these mats by the police as an educational tool. You feel the Trustees are wrong to support it because the mat can be interpreted as encouraging a 1.2m overtake which you feel is too close for comfort
I think you miss understand the comments.
Were they?
yes they were.
Motion 14 called for a law permitting a 1m pass at 30mph. You feel the Trustees should have supported campaigning to introduce a law that would allow a 1.0m overtake at 30mph
Currently approximately 1 million close passes occur per day at under 1m clearance. The research has reported a distinct benefit from introducing a 1.0m /1.5m passing law. It gives a very strong signal to drivers not to pass too close, many drivers may pass with even more clearance, given they have to estimate their passing clearance. Given the UK road network it will always have to be a compromise between what is feasible/desirable and practical.
On roads with speed limits up to and including 30mph or when passing at a speed up to and including 30mph, a 1m minimum is suggested.
The motion was in part to raise the issue, suggesting what has already been introduced elsewhere.
The mats has the 0.75m information, not required to get across the main message. In Au they use 'A metre matters' and 'Give cyclists at least a meter' or similar wording regarding the built up areas with usually a 50 km/hr limit. As an educational tool (without the 0.75m) I would support their use, even with 0.75m I would tend to support their use to a lessor extent, but would prefer without the 0.75m.
The UK does not have a 1.0 and 1.5m minimum clearance for different speed zones, so the mats can only provide a guide, they do that reasonably well.
). Some votes (such as the referendum) he told me how he wanted his vote to go, others (local council by-election) not.
