Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

thirdcrank
Posts: 26028
Joined: 9 Jan 2007, 2:44pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby thirdcrank » 14 Jun 2018, 2:37pm

Think yourselves lucky you only get one copy of the mag. :wink:

Psamathe
Posts: 8660
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby Psamathe » 14 Jun 2018, 5:12pm

thirdcrank wrote:Think yourselves lucky you only get one copy of the mag. :wink:

Back in the days I was a member I found the magazine wastes no more than 5 mins every couple of months. If I'd been asked to pay 50p per issue I would have chosen to spend my 50p on something else.

Ian

User avatar
geomannie
Posts: 404
Joined: 13 May 2009, 6:07pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby geomannie » 14 Jun 2018, 5:28pm

Psamathe wrote:
geomannie wrote:Ian,

I respectfully disagree. While cost is an issue, its a side issue. Is my wife a full CUK or not? The joint membership does not make her feel like it.

Many organisations offer joint memebership discounts. Many organisation are still able to offer individual membership cards. Why are CUK so hopeless on this?

Why should your wife (and yourself) pay less than a single person? If you pay less why are you unhappy with getting less?

Ian

Its about membership. You either are a member of a club and get the member benefits, or you are not. CUK seems to have created a halfway house.
geomannie

Psamathe
Posts: 8660
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby Psamathe » 14 Jun 2018, 5:33pm

geomannie wrote:
Psamathe wrote:
geomannie wrote:Ian,

I respectfully disagree. While cost is an issue, its a side issue. Is my wife a full CUK or not? The joint membership does not make her feel like it.

Many organisations offer joint memebership discounts. Many organisation are still able to offer individual membership cards. Why are CUK so hopeless on this?

Why should your wife (and yourself) pay less than a single person? If you pay less why are you unhappy with getting less?

Ian

Its about membership. You either are a member of a club and get the member benefits, or you are not. CUK seems to have created a halfway house.

That does not address why a couple (under joint membership) pay less than a single person but seem to expect the same benefits (or to cherry pick what benefits they do get). Pay a reduced rate and get reduced benefits - makes sense to me.

Ian

User avatar
gaz
Posts: 12786
Joined: 9 Mar 2007, 12:09pm
Location: Kent

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby gaz » 14 Jun 2018, 8:59pm

Psamathe wrote:Pay a reduced rate and get reduced benefits - makes sense to me.

On which basis over 65's, under 18's and the unwaged would get reduced benefits.

Currently only affiliated members get fewer benefits in return for their discount.

Psamathe
Posts: 8660
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby Psamathe » 14 Jun 2018, 9:06pm

gaz wrote:
Psamathe wrote:Pay a reduced rate and get reduced benefits - makes sense to me.

On which basis over 65's, under 18's and the unwaged would get reduced benefits.

Currently only affiliated members get fewer benefits in return for their discount.

Back when I was a member I didn't start threads accusing CTC of discriminating against certain groups. I accepted being discriminated against as I was on a reduced subscription. I didn't even regard it as being discriminated against.

Although interestingly I've started noticing more such organisations are stopping under 18's, unwaged and pensioners reduced subscriptions. My British Canoeing membership has no such reduced fees membership options.

Ian

User avatar
gaz
Posts: 12786
Joined: 9 Mar 2007, 12:09pm
Location: Kent

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby gaz » 14 Jun 2018, 10:28pm

Psamathe wrote:My British Canoeing membership has no such reduced fees membership options.

I believe you are mistaken.

Psamathe
Posts: 8660
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby Psamathe » 14 Jun 2018, 10:57pm

gaz wrote:
Psamathe wrote:My British Canoeing membership has no such reduced fees membership options.

I believe you are mistaken.

You are right, I am mistaken (I've not renewed since the new membership scheme came into effect). But no "unwaged" or "retired" option.

BUT, I suspect Joint/Family membership may be treated as a single membership (single membership number) and most "full" members join only because of the included waterways license (only reason I'm a member) so the benefits become somewhat more complex (i.e. you get something real and expensive bundled in in my case my BCU membership is only a few £ more expensive that buying a Broads Waterways Licence. BUT, I might be wrong because their web site seems particularly vague, BUT BCU have a bit of a reputation of being a "rip-off" (e.g. their insurance is significantly more expensive than commercially available through other agents).

Ian

Psamathe
Posts: 8660
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Joint membership- why does CUK discriminate ?

Postby Psamathe » 14 Jun 2018, 11:36pm

gaz wrote:
Psamathe wrote:My British Canoeing membership has no such reduced fees membership options.

I believe you are mistaken.

Just checked with a friend about previous scheme and they said a married couple they know have to join as two separate full memberships as they each kayak single person kayaks and thus need two waterways licenses so joint membership would have significant disadvantages. Waterways licenses are only a few £ cheaper than single membership so joint with only one waterways license is poor value for many. But this is 3rd hand as I don't have joint membership so it's thus indirect.

Ian