Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

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Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 4:54pm

I seem to be wearing everything out on my touring bike at the moment

Are these broader spd pedals better than the traditional SPDs? I was wondering if the bigger platform is easier on your feet over long distances

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby meic » 26 Jul 2017, 5:02pm

I have both types and have ridden long distances with both types and I cant really say that I have ever noticed any difference.
In my case "supported" pedals were A520s and M424's. double sided were M540's and Powerplay's equivalent of them.
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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby Brucey » 26 Jul 2017, 6:09pm

if you have decent shoes then it doesn't make a lot of difference to the comfort per se. However what I do find is that my foot gets a little bit 'tippy' when I am giving it full gas or sprinting out of the saddle on some SPD pedals, so I'm thinking that a more supportive version might be a step in the right direction....

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 6:15pm

meic wrote:I have both types and have ridden long distances with both types and I cant really say that I have ever noticed any difference.
In my case "supported" pedals were A520s and M424's. double sided were M540's and Powerplay's equivalent of them.


So the 520's are supportive but not the 530?

Isn't the 530 the double sided version of the 520?

I like the weight saving but are they a faff? Do they tip to be right side up?

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 6:18pm

Brucey wrote:if you have decent shoes then it doesn't make a lot of difference to the comfort per se. However what I do find is that my foot gets a little bit 'tippy' when I am giving it full gas or sprinting out of the saddle on some SPD pedals, so I'm thinking that a more supportive version might be a step in the right direction....

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I agree it seems like a good idea. This is for my touring bike and I only take one pair of shoes to wear on and off the bike so the sole has to be a bit of a compromise and so I sometimes think I can feel the pedal on traditional SPDs like the 540s

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby meic » 26 Jul 2017, 6:20pm

I have not tried the M530s (or the A530s) I was only giving feedback on the two types of pedals which I ride with which have an additional support comparing them to the ones I ride with which dont have additional support.

The A520s do not self-right to the correct position but you soon learn to click in by rolling the pedal from underneath as you bring your foot into contact.
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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby Brucey » 26 Jul 2017, 6:45pm

NB to avoid confusion; number alone does not denote the pedal model

PD-M520
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PD-A520
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Similarly there are PD-M530 and PD-A530 models that differ somewhat from one another.

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby drossall » 26 Jul 2017, 7:27pm

At least in theory, with clipless pedals it's the sole of the shoe that supports your foot, so it shouldn't matter that much. The pedal is just there as a bearing attached to your shoe.

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby tim_f » 26 Jul 2017, 8:14pm

I think it depends on how stiff your shoe is, how deep the clear recess is, how squishy the shoe tread is.

Got all the pedals mentioned above on different bikes.

The M530 is good on a off road bike when you might want to balance a foot on the pedal not clipped in is you think yiou might need to drop a foot quickly.

I think the cage gives a bit of support on shoes which a bit flexy - which I prefer for mountain biking where might walk a bit.

The A520 are the most supportive along the length of the pedal than the M530, as the M530 dips at the front and back I use them for long touring trips on my Audax style bike (Colin 531 Spa cycles Audax) I think the A520 still gives length wise support on a stiff sole. Good idea on a shoe which is stiff but not as stiff as a racing cyclist shoe.

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 8:15pm

drossall wrote:At least in theory, with clipless pedals it's the sole of the shoe that supports your foot, so it shouldn't matter that much. The pedal is just there as a bearing attached to your shoe.


That's an interesting point, but in a touring shoe where the sole may not be that rigid does the broader pedal help?

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 8:20pm

tim_f wrote:I think it depends on how stiff your shoe is, how deep the clear recess is, how squishy the shoe tread is.

Got all the pedals mentioned above on different bikes.

The M530 is good on a off road bike when you might want to balance a foot on the pedal not clipped in is you think yiou might need to drop a foot quickly.

I think the cage gives a bit of support on shoes which a bit flexy - which I prefer for mountain biking where might walk a bit.

The A520 are the most supportive along the length of the pedal than the M530, as the M530 dips at the front and back I use them for long touring trips on my Audax style bike (Colin 531 Spa cycles Audax) I think the A520 still gives length wise support on a stiff sole. Good idea on a shoe which is stiff but not as stiff as a racing cyclist shoe.

Tim


So which would you recommend for on-road touring of around 100 miles per day, or single days of up to 250 miles for a touring shoe that you can also walk around in - something like a Giro Republic?

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 8:22pm

Brucey wrote:NB to avoid confusion; number alone does not denote the pedal model

PD-M520
Image

PD-A520
Image

Similarly there are PD-M530 and PD-A530 models that differ somewhat from one another.

cheers


So is it the D and the M that denote the difference in breadth/support or is it more random than that?

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 8:26pm

meic wrote:I have not tried the M530s (or the A530s) I was only giving feedback on the two types of pedals which I ride with which have an additional support comparing them to the ones I ride with which dont have additional support.

The A520s do not self-right to the correct position but you soon learn to click in by rolling the pedal from underneath as you bring your foot into contact.

So does the cleat side always fall to the bottom and therefore the movement is always the same or is it random which side is at the bottom and top?

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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby meic » 26 Jul 2017, 8:41pm

Yes, it always the same position-ish. Not horizontal but with the cleat facing down.
My foot knows better than I do! You get your toe a little under it and move forward on top of it which turns it over, then down and it engages. All one quick continuous action, after a while.
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Re: Are these broader pedals better than normal SPDs?

Postby mnichols » 26 Jul 2017, 8:53pm

meic wrote:Yes, it always the same position-ish. Not horizontal but with the cleat facing down.
My foot knows better than I do! You get your toe a little under it and move forward on top of it which turns it over, then down and it engages. All one quick continuous action, after a while.


Thanks, that's helpful.