A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Middle of the road » 14 Aug 2017, 8:58am

old_windbag wrote:
Middle of the road wrote:but I will leave you to look these up for yourself :-)


Can't quite put my finger on it :lol: . I know its alternate uses.

I read that the prostate continues growing as we age as men, hence the enlargement, I think castration a little extreme in order to shrink it down but it may allow soprano singing so opening up new avenues. As cyclists they advise not cycling for a few days prior to any tests as it can raise PSA levels and give false reading of issues. These are all things to dread going into middle age added to fading eyesight, loss of hearing, baldness, loss of teeth. :shock:

It's one of those parts that leads to many issues mid-life onward. "God/Nature" may have done some nifty design on us generally but when it comes to that part I think it was rushed out to get the job done. But we are outliving our "natural" lifespans somewhat I guess, hence finding new reliability issues on the way.

Never heard the use of cisgender before.


I wish I hadn't put a laughing face on my last post. I wasn't trying to make light of the comment. There are alternative roles that the prostate plays in the body (apart from the obvious to which you've alluded) , but I also don't think that they are relevant to this post.

I'd like to respond to your post and assist with awareness so if the moderators will allow I will digress.

Castration is a term that means losing use of the testes, by whatever means, either chemical, surgical or otherwise. Ochidectomy is a medical term that means surgical removal of one or both testes. It is sometimes used in the treatment of advanced prostate cancer (and of course often in cases of testicular cancer). Prostate cancer needs testosterone to grow so either chemically blocking this with anti-androgens or removal of the testes stops/blocks the production of testosterone.

Removal of the testes doesn't affect the vocal chords so the person having the orchidectomy most likely won't be able to sing soprano, or alto or mezzo. Their vocal range will remain the same. However, Voice therapy can train the speaking and singing voice to extend its range somewhat, hence transgender women can have voice therapy if they wish to raise the pitch of their voices.

Orchidectomy for transgender women can be carried out as part of Genital reconstructive surgery. This isn't an extreme measure, it is a recognised medical treatment and one option in the treatment of Gender Dysphoria. Here's a link to the NHS page on Gender Dysphoria;

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dys ... ction.aspx

In essence, Gender Dysphoria is a condition where a person experiences discomfort or distress because there is a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender. Biological sex is assigned at birth by a doctor and is based on the physical appearance of the genitals. Gender identity is the gender that a person feels themselves to be.

Some people with gender dysphoria have a strong and persistent desire to live according to their gender identity rather than their biological sex and feel great discomfort and pain that their body doesn't match their sense of self. Gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness it is a recognised medical condition. There are a range of treatments and support available through the NHS by referral to a Gender Identity Clinic (GIC). Seeing a GP is the first stage in a referral. Unfortunately there can be a long waiting list, often around or in excess of 2 years to have a GIC appointment.

An assessment will be made by specialists at the GIC, over the course of several sessions several months apart and has the aim of supporting the patient and arriving at a personal treatment plan. This may involve talking therapies at one end of a spectrum to help the person accept themselves or it may involve at the other end of a spectrum, treatment with hormones and dressing and living as their preferred gender, with or without surgery.

I will explain the terms cisgender etc.

Cisgender person = Where their biological sex and gender identity are the same.

Transgender person = A person either a biological male or biological female has a gender identity that isn't the same as their biological identity.

I'd like to support TrailRat and thank her for having the courage to ask her question. She isn't the first transgender person to be a cyclist and she won't be the last. I hope that she can find a saddle that suits her and can carry on enjoying cycling.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby eileithyia » 14 Aug 2017, 11:26am

Just one pedantic point, as the majority of births are attended by a Midwife, I don't think it is a Dr., who assigns gender..... it is usually by observation of the genitals by everyone who is attendant in the room... very occasionally genitalia can be ambiguous and genetic testing is required.
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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby LollyKat » 14 Aug 2017, 1:05pm

Getting back to Trailrat's question, one saddle that she could consider is the Rido R2.

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Short review here. The design means there is no pressure at all on the perineum. Lighter and more elegant versions are also available. I used one for a time and found it pretty good, though I eventually switched to a Spa Nidd leather saddle that I bodged with a cut-out and is now my favourite.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Middle of the road » 14 Aug 2017, 7:23pm

eileithyia wrote:Just one pedantic point, as the majority of births are attended by a Midwife, I don't think it is a Dr., who assigns gender..... it is usually by observation of the genitals by everyone who is attendant in the room... very occasionally genitalia can be ambiguous and genetic testing is required.


I apologise for my mistake and thanks for sharing the information. You can probably tell that I'm not a parent.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Flinders » 21 Aug 2017, 11:54am

There are the manta saddles I mentioned in another thread. I can't use one because my saddle is already as low as it will go, and they have to be set lower than a standard one, but they may suit some riders.
http://mantasaddle.co.uk/

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Sylvie_N » 22 Jan 2018, 11:59am

From another 'post-op' transgender woman. I've found a Specialized 'Lithia' saddle to be very comfortable, although of course it did need a little fine tuning particularly with regard to level. The local Specialized Concept store set the bike up well initially.

P.S. A lovely factual and sensitive description from Middle of the road on what being tg is about, thank you for that !

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby brynpoeth » 30 Jun 2018, 10:56am

LollyKat wrote:Getting back to Trailrat's question, one saddle that she could consider is the Rido R2.

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Short review here. The design means there is no pressure at all on the perineum. Lighter and more elegant versions are also available. I used one for a time and found it pretty good, though I eventually switched to a Spa Nidd leather saddle that I bodged with a cut-out and is now my favourite.

Did you cut the Nidd yourself, is there a danger of the leather tearing, may we see a picture?
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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby LollyKat » 30 Jun 2018, 11:03pm

I cut it myself, in a similar pattern to the Rivet Pearl, using an electric drill at each end and then a Stanley knife for the rest. The leather is really tough and it took me quite a long time. The drilled holes prevent any tearing and the laces stop it from splaying too much.