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pwa wrote: 16 May 2025, 7:57pm Having dabbled at Audax I know how hard it is to keep going when tiredness and all the aches and pains set in, so the idea of ploughing on at a rate of nearly 500km per day, for five and a bit days is just a testament to a kind of mental strength and determination most of us could not manage. Truly impressive.
And not just mental "strength". The physical demands speak of a very high fitness, both for this ride and generally.

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For some years now I've thought that its just another effect of centuries of patriarchy (still around in large dollops) that assumes women are somehow not able to do a whole range of things that "only men are tough enough (or clever enough) to do". I think that's not true except as an effect of the centuries of patriarchy preventing women from training for, attempting and achieving all sorts.

In the last 20 years I've seen many road races and time trials in which women not only do as well as men but sometimes come out "the best". If various organisations, institutions and other artificial socio-cultural barriers were dismantled so that, for instance, women could ride in the main TdeF I feel there'd be a good chance that a woman would eventually become "the best".

The patriarchy assume that a brute strength of the testosterone-induced variety is the only relevant factor in so many human activities, including various forms of cycling. This is tosh, really, as this lady's feat at the this particular record shows. There are many factors involved in winning a road race on a bike; and in many other activities supposedly only do-able to a certain level by man-brutes.
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I’m no expert but I think it would be better at home here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cycling_records
Thanks for this absolutely fascinating link
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Cugel wrote: 18 May 2025, 12:01pm
pwa wrote: 16 May 2025, 7:57pm Having dabbled at Audax I know how hard it is to keep going when tiredness and all the aches and pains set in, so the idea of ploughing on at a rate of nearly 500km per day, for five and a bit days is just a testament to a kind of mental strength and determination most of us could not manage. Truly impressive.
And not just mental "strength". The physical demands speak of a very high fitness, both for this ride and generally.

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For some years now I've thought that its just another effect of centuries of patriarchy (still around in large dollops) that assumes women are somehow not able to do a whole range of things that "only men are tough enough (or clever enough) to do". I think that's not true except as an effect of the centuries of patriarchy preventing women from training for, attempting and achieving all sorts.

In the last 20 years I've seen many road races and time trials in which women not only do as well as men but sometimes come out "the best". If various organisations, institutions and other artificial socio-cultural barriers were dismantled so that, for instance, women could ride in the main TdeF I feel there'd be a good chance that a woman would eventually become "the best".

The patriarchy assume that a brute strength of the testosterone-induced variety is the only relevant factor in so many human activities, including various forms of cycling. This is tosh, really, as this lady's feat at the this particular record shows. There are many factors involved in winning a road race on a bike; and in many other activities supposedly only do-able to a certain level by man-brutes.
Again from Audax events, I have seen many tough female cyclists who can dig deep when the need arises.
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Paulatic wrote: 18 May 2025, 8:52am I’m no expert but I think it would be better at home here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cycling_records

Wish I’d thought of that page to satisfy @ Mattheus quest for evidence 😀
Hmmm ... I don't recall asking for evidence of anything! Let's see:
mattheus wrote: 12 May 2025, 8:41am
(Not that I think GWR are the prime authority ... I just wanted clarification :-) )
Instead of clarification I just got more questions. Not very helpful.

UNLIKE the very helpful link from Wiki you've posted just above. Thank you.
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There's a write up, post-event interview and some more pics here:

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/dr-s ... jog-record

Details on the bike and some of the kit too.
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A clubmate, Brian Lewis is having a go at the age record . Either 86 or 87 so according the the GBoR that will get him the title. Might well do it. Was world champion in his age group last year in what ever they do at that age . A Grand Fondo type thing I think.
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mattsccm wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 6:59pm A clubmate, Brian Lewis is having a go at the age record . Either 86 or 87 so according the the GBoR that will get him the title. Might well do it. Was world champion in his age group last year in what ever they do at that age . A Grand Fondo type thing I think.
Or maybe 90?
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Seems more likely to me. 85 isn't that old really.
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<just parking here until I find a better thread - suggestions welcome!>

Mayor of Bath breaks RRA London-Edinburgh record

"He set a new provisional time of 16 hrs 56 min 51sec for the 388 mile (624km) Road Record Association record between the two capitals. Dyson became the first rider to break the 17-hour mark, beating the previous time, set by Michael Broadwith, by just over 45 minutes"

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/i-ju ... ng-the-way
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Another record currently being attempted is the British Circumnavigation World Record, the record for cycling round the British coastline which currently stands at 22 days and is over 40 years old.

The attempt is being made by Molly Weaver, the first woman to attempt it with Nick Sanders the current record holder. She is currently 42% completed of the 7700km distance and 230km ahead of the record.
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Cugel wrote: 18 May 2025, 12:01pm
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For some years now I've thought that its just another effect of centuries of patriarchy (still around in large dollops) that assumes women are somehow not able to do a whole range of things that "only men are tough enough (or clever enough) to do". I think that's not true except as an effect of the centuries of patriarchy preventing women from training for, attempting and achieving all sorts.

In the last 20 years I've seen many road races and time trials in which women not only do as well as men but sometimes come out "the best". If various organisations, institutions and other artificial socio-cultural barriers were dismantled so that, for instance, women could ride in the main TdeF I feel there'd be a good chance that a woman would eventually become "the best".

The patriarchy assume that a brute strength of the testosterone-induced variety is the only relevant factor in so many human activities, including various forms of cycling. This is tosh, really, as this lady's feat at the this particular record shows. There are many factors involved in winning a road race on a bike; and in many other activities supposedly only do-able to a certain level by man-brutes.
I've posted on here before about a book called, "Playing with the Boys: why separate is not equal in sports" by Eileen McDonagh and Laura Pappano. They present good evidence that women are held back by sex segregated sports and that sex differences are not sufficient to warrant exclusion. It's a bit out of date, now. Women have made considerable progress in demonstrating their ability to compete with men, winning outright several endurance events, or setting records like this, since the book was published.
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Can anyone please advise the E to E 'record' when travelling alone,with no back up at all or assistance, carrying four panniers which contain all your clothes, food, a tent and sleeping bag, wild camping, plus a Trangia, and ridden on a Raleigh or something similar?

This is the definition of an E to E record: all the rest are just races - and yes, this IS how we used to ride the route years ago!

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Morzedec wrote: 24 Jun 2025, 5:31pm Can anyone please advise the E to E 'record' when travelling alone,with no back up at all or assistance, carrying four panniers which contain all your clothes, food, a tent and sleeping bag, wild camping, plus a Trangia, and ridden on a Raleigh or something similar?

This is the definition of an E to E record: all the rest are just races - and yes, this IS how we used to ride the route years ago!

Happy Days!
Do you want the figure for Europe? Or mainland UK? Or British Isles ... or ...
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Hello, Well: I know my own times from Land's End to John O'Groats, and from Roscoff to the Mediterranean (and on occasions the return, or double, journey as well - on my own, well laden - I was just getting a bit fed up reading about all these 'records' that do not really quantify what is involved.

I don't MIND them, if that's what they want to do - but touring cycling it ain 't, which is what most of us are about - or ought to be on this site. It's a bit like comparing Pogachcar riding the tour on his posh bike, and someone who is doing and E to E here in the UK as part of an organised, backed-up ride on a converted mountain bike -both are commendable, but both are vastly different.

If an old bloke can't have a gentle gripe now and then, what's the world coming to?

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Morzedec wrote: 24 Jun 2025, 5:31pm Can anyone please advise the E to E 'record' when travelling alone,with no back up at all or assistance, carrying four panniers which contain all your clothes, food, a tent and sleeping bag, wild camping, plus a Trangia, and ridden on a Raleigh or something similar?

This is the definition of an E to E record: all the rest are just races - and yes, this IS how we used to ride the route years ago!

Happy Days!
If riding in your style includes something about comparative times for various routes, than you're actually turning what you claim to be touring into some form of race. :-)

The thread is a sideways glance at a remarkable cycling feat, not a suggestion that we all go touring about in this lady's style or rising a bike from A to B as fast as possible.

BTW, I feel that you may be cheating by using a tent and a Trangia and ..... . A true tourist would just sleep under the hedge and eat dead squirrels*.

* Just kidding (in case you hadn't noticed).
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