Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

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Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby fossala » 14 May 2018, 3:27pm

I've recently bought an ICE QNT and it's a revelation. I'm commuting on it everyday (20 odd miles) and am going out for longer rides (up to 80miles so far but that is because of time restraint, not ability).

I honestly don't think I want to go back to upright bikes, they honestly just don't make much sense now. I don't drive so use trains for transport to get to different starting points, this is problematic with trikes. Any thoughts on Challenge mistral SL's? It should be with me on Friday.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby fossala » 14 May 2018, 3:38pm

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby UpWrong » 18 May 2018, 4:02pm

Looks good. The large matt frame tube is very purposeful, almost military. Let us know how you get on with it.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby pjclinch » 18 May 2018, 4:50pm

fossala wrote:Any thoughts on Challenge mistral SL's? It should be with me on Friday.


The one I rode many moons ago was a rather less Whizzy looking standard one rather than a verging-on-invisible SL, but I must say I was distinctly underwhelmed. Nothing actually wrong with it, but on the other hand devoid of stand-out "this bike is great because..." grin producing elements (though the HS11s it had did convince me Magura rim brakes were a worthwhile upgrade for my Streetmachine).

But, there again, my wife thinks much the same about my Streetmachine, so take it as it comes and don't worry about what I found on a variant.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby fossala » 18 May 2018, 5:08pm

I'm still unsure I want it but I'm sure I'll find out after a few weeks. I'm more than happy with my ICE trike but it can't go on trains.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby UpWrong » 20 May 2018, 7:56am

The things is, if you want a lightweight 'bent with suspension there are no options currently available. Challenge achieve it with butted aluminium tubing and carbon parts, neither of which are used by HP Velotechnic and Azub. Why? Maybe reliability (and risk of litigation if frame failure occurred) and also luggage carrying capacity a priority to cater for the tourers. There is also the question of power loss with frame flex. A heavier frame might actually be a better climber if it flexes less.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby fossala » 20 May 2018, 8:10am

UpWrong wrote:The things is, if you want a lightweight 'bent with suspension there are no options currently available. Challenge achieve it with butted aluminium tubing and carbon parts, neither of which are used by HP Velotechnic and Azub. Why? Maybe reliability (and risk of litigation if frame failure occurred) and also luggage carrying capacity a priority to cater for the tourers. There is also the question of power loss with frame flex. A heavier frame might actually be a better climber if it flexes less.

Are challenge not around anymore or do they just not make the sl models?

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby UpWrong » 20 May 2018, 8:19am

fossala wrote:Are challenge not around anymore or do they just not make the sl models?


Good question. Theoretically yes. In practice I get the impression they are only making bikes in small batches and selling to dutch and germans who visit Nijmegen. The business got bought by one of the dealers who doesn't seem interested in supplying former Challenge dealerships. Others might want to relate their experience of trying to buy bikes and parts direct.

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Re: Thoughts on Challenge mistral sl

Postby fossala » 20 May 2018, 8:23am

UpWrong wrote:
fossala wrote:Are challenge not around anymore or do they just not make the sl models?


Good question. Theoretically yes. In practice I get the impression they are only making bikes in small batches and selling to dutch and germans who visit Nijmegen. The business got bought by one of the dealers who doesn't seem interested in supplying former Challenge dealerships. Others might want to relate their experience of trying to buy bikes and parts direct.

I went on their website a week or so back but their catalogue and price list hasn't been updated since 2011. Do to collection/shipment issues I won't be getting the bent until Tuesday now. I'll report back then on how I find it.