Ticks and wild camping!!!

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Hi,
And you a farmer too :)
Had many, normally notice them in the shower.
Sat in a nest (well I assume) on the way home over the moors, number 2 :P
Err in doors pulled over 100 from my rear, doctor said that love for you :lol:

Changed your beer lately..
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Spray your exposed skin with a brand name insect repellent before your ride, top up when necessary, when you have sweated lots or reapply once in the day.

Most of them say on the instructions *not* to put it directly on skin. Many people have adverse reactions to DEET, when it is applied directly to the skin.

If you want to apply stuff directly on your skin, look for products with oil of lemon eucalyptus and/or citronella
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -the-deet/
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Hi,
Never used Deet, I just use over-the-counter on the shelves spray on insect repellent.
It used to work on tics, I once had several dozen climbing up my legs after going through Bracken, Later on they all gone not one stayed.
Treated the Mutts regularly And you would sometimes see them jumping off onto the furniture and carpet.
But I know that they have become more resistant to any type of deterrent.
Mostly pick them up on the moors where There are lots of sheep.
Maybe I got it wrong but I thought that Paulatic had done some farming? so a little surprise he never had a tic.
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Never used Deet, I just use over-the-counter on the shelves spray on insect repellent.
It used to work on tics, I once had several dozen climbing up my legs after going through Bracken, Later on they all gone not one stayed.
Treated the Mutts regularly And you would sometimes see them jumping off onto the furniture and carpet.
But I know that they have become more resistant to any type of deterrent.
Mostly pick them up on the moors where There are lots of sheep.
Maybe I got it wrong but I thought that Paulatic had done some farming? so a little surprise he never had a tic.

Yep seen them all my life on lambs, dogs, and when clipping ewes, always on the inside of shoulders, but never got one on me. As I’ve said before on here we routinely dipped for tick and sheep were everywhere and that would keep numbers down. Discussing this this morning with a retired farmer/doctor and as he reminded me we were constantly in wellies and plastic trousers. Now there is so much land without sheep on getting routinely treated that ticks are flourishing.
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The Isle of Purbeck has the highest incidence of reported Lyme disease cases, mainly affecting white women. The link below shows what the bulls eye rash looks like if you think you may be affected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49344772
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Never used Deet, I just use over-the-counter on the shelves spray on insect repellent.

Over the counter insect repellent sprays usually contain DEET (N,N-diethyl-meta-toluamide), even if they are not branded as such. Read the ingredients and directions for use.
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Not seen anyone else recommend it so will give Permethrin a mention. Can spray it on clothes and maybe your tent depending on fabrics etc. Highly used in the US by thru hikers.
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Hi,
Vorpal wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Never used Deet, I just use over-the-counter on the shelves spray on insect repellent.

Over the counter insect repellent sprays usually contain DEET (N,N-diethyl-meta-toluamide), even if they are not branded as such. Read the ingredients and directions for use.


Hydroxyethyl Isobutyl Piperidine Carboxylate this is what is in my spray, which is child friendly and you can spray on skin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icaridin

"Icaridin has been reported to be as effective as DEET without the irritation associated with DEET.[3] According to the WHO, icaridin “demonstrates excellent repellent properties comparable to, and often superior to, those of the standard DEET.”"
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I camped near Drumnadroichit in Scotland and like normal wore long trousers but collected 2 ticks when going to the loo at 2am !
I do carry a tick remover but didn't see them for 2 days.
I removed them and both and was okay.
Basically the local hospital said you will get a 4" ring around the bite if you have been infected.
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rjb wrote:The Isle of Purbeck has the highest incidence of reported Lyme disease cases, mainly affecting white women. The link below shows what the bulls eye rash looks like if you think you may be affected.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49344772
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As far as I understand... you don't always get a bulls eye rash and if you do it's not always around the bite. I picked up ten or so ticks this weekend around Elan Valley area. They were nearly all larvae/nymphs and not mich bigger than a full stop or poppy seed.

If I didn't know what I was looking for I probably wouldn't have noticed them. I suspect that loads of people pick small ticks up and never notice them.
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hamish wrote:As far as I understand... you don't always get a bulls eye rash and if you do it's not always around the bite. I picked up ten or so ticks this weekend around Elan Valley area. They were nearly all larvae/nymphs and not mich bigger than a full stop or poppy seed.

If I didn't know what I was looking for I probably wouldn't have noticed them. I suspect that loads of people pick small ticks up and never notice them.

Thankfully you don’t always get the bulls eye :D
My Pharmacist said " if you do get the bulls eye or any flu like symptoms within the next month then visit your GP.
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A pal was bitten and did get the bullseye rash (and other classic flu-like symptoms) but got a negative test result. She attacked Medline (database of medical research) and found that false negatives are an issue, took the citations to her GP who admitted they hadn't realised that, prescribed a very serious dose of antibiotics and the symptoms all disappeared.

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Bmblbzzz wrote:Ticks are more numerous in some areas than others but they're becoming more common generally. It's quite likely they do bite some people more than others, just like mosquitoes.

You don't necessarily need a specific tick-removal tool, you can use a pair of tweezers. The important thing is to grasp the tick firmly and pull it straight up perpendicular to your skin. Do not twist or bend it. You must get it all out. If there's any part of it (usually the head) left in there, you'd best go to GP or A&E to get it removed, or it will decompose inside you, leading to all sorts of potential nasties.

Now you've been bitten, you need to look out for Lyme disease. First symptom is a bull's eye rash around the bite. This can take up to 36 days to develop. If you spot it, go to GP and get antibiotics. It's pretty rare though.


Not always. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323457.php

'In the early stages of the disease, around 70–80 percent of people develop a rash that resembles a bull's-eye. The medical term for this distinctive rash is erythema migrans.

Other people with Lyme disease may have a different type of rash or no rash at all.'
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