A decent white van man

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A decent white van man

Postby gbnz » 8 Nov 2018, 8:25pm

A decent white van man.

Running late, a result of having to call in to see my 79 year old mother. Headed back over the moors, only 12-13 miles, but 2000'+ of climbs, heavy rain, dark by 16.30 and unusual traffic levels. And perhaps the only time I've been on the bike in the dark sans lights & reflectors.

So a white van man pulls over and offers me and bike a lift :) . Had to decline as I was soaked and would have wrecked his cab, still what a decent bloke (Nb. Too cold to say thank you properly, as my lips couldn't move :oops: )

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby peetee » 9 Nov 2018, 9:00am

They do exist.
A friend of mine works for a high class glasshouse design company producing traditional products for period properties. He has always driven a plain white van.
I must ask him if that has ever caused an issue with his clients. I know from experience that a lot of people out there that get rather upset when they order from a certain retail company and a plain van turns up instead of a green one with diagonal stripes. Oh, the shame of it. What must the neighbours think?
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Re: A decent white van man

Postby pwa » 9 Nov 2018, 9:09am

Most of us who drive will be a white van man/woman at some point. When your student son or your elderly mother is moving home and you go to hire a van for the day. It's not the vehicle that dictates the driving style, it's the choices made by the driver.

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby 661-Pete » 9 Nov 2018, 9:13am

Yes I have been a WVM at some time in my life (hired van - transporting furniture and stuff to France). Whether I was 'decent' in the circumstances - well that's for others to say :oops: . Alas! I offered no lift to any forlorn cyclist, nor anyone else....
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Re: A decent white van man

Postby brynpoeth » 9 Nov 2018, 9:22am

WVW?
Cycling - of course, but it is far better on a Gillott..alternative facts welcome

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby Bez » 9 Nov 2018, 9:39am


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Re: A decent white van man

Postby [XAP]Bob » 9 Nov 2018, 10:07am

pwa wrote:Most of us who drive will be a white van man/woman at some point. When your student son or your elderly mother is moving home and you go to hire a van for the day. It's not the vehicle that dictates the driving style, it's the choices made by the driver.



Interestingly it's also the choices made by those around you.
In a LWB Sprinter, I regularly used to approach a roundabout and stop... but so did everyone else, despite them having priority.
Well at the point when everyone is stopped I'll happily go... How many people would decide I'd 'pushed my way onto the roundabout' I don't know...
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Re: A decent white van man

Postby gbnz » 9 Nov 2018, 4:11pm

brynpoeth wrote:WVW?


A stereotypical viewpoint. Rather like that of cyclists, who're all vegan, environmentaly friendly, middle class people who aren't like US. I kid you not, briefly residing in a parochial, rural, Northern town, stereotypes do exist :roll:

Ask my heavy smoking, p&^%$£%^, neighbours on a Friday night! (Nb. I've had to ask them to use their cigarettes away from my washing).

On a positive point, at least I'm referred to as "sir" in the supermarkets et al :lol:

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby The utility cyclist » 11 Nov 2018, 1:20am

A 'decent' WVM is rarer than rocking horse poop, I've met one who did me an amazing turn and saved me a 17 mile walk home. Sadly the actions of the majority of other people whom just happen to be inside a metal box with an engine, makes you see their action as almost other worldly. Offering help to others in difficulty or very trying situations should be seen as a normal thing to do, not extraordinary.

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby Bonefishblues » 11 Nov 2018, 8:54am

I don't think it's anything to do with the vehicle an individual is, or is not driving. It's about the individual themselves.

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby Airsporter1st » 11 Nov 2018, 12:34pm

Bonefishblues wrote:I don't think it's anything to do with the vehicle an individual is, or is not driving. It's about the individual themselves.


Precisely!

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby RickH » 11 Nov 2018, 2:49pm

Bonefishblues wrote:I don't think it's anything to do with the vehicle an individual is, or is not driving. It's about the individual themselves.

I don't do it so often now but sometimes I find myself filtering my way into Wigan, to catch a train there, past a line of very slow moving traffic. I'm often pleasantly surprised by the number of vehicles who's drivers have obviously seen me approaching & edge across to give me more space. That fairly regularly includes white vans & white Audis.

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby Bonefishblues » 11 Nov 2018, 4:48pm

RickH wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:I don't think it's anything to do with the vehicle an individual is, or is not driving. It's about the individual themselves.

I don't do it so often now but sometimes I find myself filtering my way into Wigan, to catch a train there, past a line of very slow moving traffic. I'm often pleasantly surprised by the number of vehicles who's drivers have obviously seen me approaching & edge across to give me more space. That fairly regularly includes white vans & white Audis.

I think that you should take a break from the Forum and think about what you just said :wink:

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Re: A decent white van man

Postby Phil Fouracre » 11 Nov 2018, 5:05pm

Yup I agree! Van, mmmmm maybe, but, Audi, nope sorry!
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Re: A decent white van man

Postby The utility cyclist » 11 Nov 2018, 9:28pm

Bonefishblues wrote:I don't think it's anything to do with the vehicle an individual is, or is not driving. It's about the individual themselves.

I think certain vehicles and what they are being used for does influence driver behaviour, it would be very difficult to prove but the feeling is that it's not make/model, it's vehicle type. Vans used by trades-persons and delivery drivers seem to me to be very high on the list of micturate poor driving, a greater % than car drivers but less than skip lorry drivers!
White range rovers today as I passed a very affluent area, 3 in less than 60 seconds all being impatient twonks, not to mention a couple of other luxury SUV/green welly type machines.