Platypus wine "bottle"

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Re: Platypus wine "bottle"

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I have one, which is officially a 1 litre water bottle, and is mostly used for water on non-cycling excursions, but it has been used for wine occasionally. I've generally just drunk straight from the bottle through the bite valve, which saves on carrying a separate glass, knocking it over, or competing flavour-wise in the tea mug.
I found that the wine isn't much affected, no more, and matbe a bit less than recorking a glass bottle or screwing a cap back on.
I don't remember cleaning being a problem - just rinse out with water as soon as is practical.
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I have had one for the last few years and have been happy with it. It will not leak, and the wine does not taste any worse after a day. Compared to a glass bottle it saves weight and is easier to pack into a pannier. During last summer´s heat wave it also served as a very welcome additional water bottle.
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Is Platypus a known, quality brand? If not then I wonder if they're any different from the 99p water bags.
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elPedro666 wrote:Is Platypus a known, quality brand? If not then I wonder if they're any different from the 99p water bags.
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You wouldn't get a bottle of wine in one of those, they hold a cup full of liquid at best.
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foxyrider wrote: You wouldn't get a bottle of wine in one of those, they hold a cup full of liquid at best.


500ml I think our's is - if that's your idea of a cup of wine I'd like to have one with you! [emoji23][emoji485]



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elPedro666 wrote:
foxyrider wrote: You wouldn't get a bottle of wine in one of those, they hold a cup full of liquid at best.


500ml I think our's is - if that's your idea of a cup of wine I'd like to have one with you! [emoji23][emoji485]


Am aware of those cheapo things - i suppose many are - quite often given away as freebies/promotional items.

I imagine that they might be rather hard to clean - not a great idea to store anything but water in them.
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I've got two, having misplaced the first I was sufficiently happy with it to buy a replacement but Sod's Law resulted in the original turning up. Platypus products are well known & well regarded in the lightweight backpacking community. They are made from multiple layers of material laminated together, hence the cost.
I also have several of their water bottles, some of which are showing slight signs of delamination after 10 years of hard use but none have actually leaked or even appear likely to do so. The single layer cheapo folding bottles cannot really be compared for durability- OK if you're prepared to risk a pannier full of fluid after a few uses! I'll quite happily store full bottles inside my tent or in the pannier containing my down sleeping bag.
The wine version is equally durable & cleaning isn't a problem with a bottle brush, proprietary cleaning tablets or even Steradent tablets, but if you go down that route DO rinse them out thoroughly before decanting your wine into it!
The blurb from the company highlights 3 main advantages :-
1) You can securely carry a full 75cl of wine around without the weight/fragility/disposal issues of the glass bottle.
2) After drinking part of the contents the bladder can be squeezed to exclude all air before re-capping, which slows deterioration of the remaining contents.
3)The coloured coating protects the contents from light which apparently is a factor in the deterioration of red wines (hence the dark glass of red wine bottles).
After prolonged use I've no reason to doubt these claims. I've had wine stay reasonably fresh for 4 days (willpower!) & can confirm that the material is taste-free, unlike some of the cheapo containers. Can't remember when I last took a glass bottle on a trip.
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Well, I've bought my 'Platypus Wine Preservation System' now from eBay, comparatively cheap at £10, compared to Ultralightoutdoorgear - a retailer I used to use quite often in my mountaineering days!

It will get a good testing on my next cycle trip!
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philsknees wrote:I've got two, having misplaced the first I was sufficiently happy with it to buy a replacement but Sod's Law resulted in the original turning up. Platypus products are well known & well regarded in the lightweight backpacking community. They are made from multiple layers of material laminated together, hence the cost.
I also have several of their water bottles, some of which are showing slight signs of delamination after 10 years of hard use but none have actually leaked or even appear likely to do so. The single layer cheapo folding bottles cannot really be compared for durability- OK if you're prepared to risk a pannier full of fluid after a few uses! I'll quite happily store full bottles inside my tent or in the pannier containing my down sleeping bag.
The wine version is equally durable & cleaning isn't a problem with a bottle brush, proprietary cleaning tablets or even Steradent tablets, but if you go down that route DO rinse them out thoroughly before decanting your wine into it!
The blurb from the company highlights 3 main advantages :-
1) You can securely carry a full 75cl of wine around without the weight/fragility/disposal issues of the glass bottle.
2) After drinking part of the contents the bladder can be squeezed to exclude all air before re-capping, which slows deterioration of the remaining contents.
3)The coloured coating protects the contents from light which apparently is a factor in the deterioration of red wines (hence the dark glass of red wine bottles).
After prolonged use I've no reason to doubt these claims. I've had wine stay reasonably fresh for 4 days (willpower!) & can confirm that the material is taste-free, unlike some of the cheapo containers. Can't remember when I last took a glass bottle on a trip.
Lots of interesting choice here: https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk ... ration-c34
Well that thoroughly answers my question - sounds well worth the extra, thanks! [emoji106]

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Well done phil parker, it shows that it's always worth shopping around. It seems there's some stock of the old model still available on eBay & it looks like the changes to the new one are purely cosmetic. Enjoy!
My intention with the Ultralightoutdoorgear link was to demonstrate the wide choice available & to give a rough idea of the prices to expect for the more durable lightweight designs rather than a recommendation to buy from that site.
I'm sure there's a huge level of experience of wines here :shock: ,so hope I'm not stating the obvious when I suggest that slightly better quality wines seem to stay drinkable longer once opened (though they're least likely to be the ones that aren't finished off!)
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Re: Platypus wine "bottle"

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Platypus is a reputable brand indeed, from the same outdoor conglomerate that gave you Thermarest and MSR. I did try one of the cheap offerings: it leaked.
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