Team Sky is now Team INEOS

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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby Bonefishblues » 8 Apr 2019, 1:16pm

100%JR wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:You may need a new compass for those morals :wink:

Well I work in the Steel Industry.Even though we're classed as a "Green Steel" company 90% of the Steel we make goes to either Oil and Gas,Aerospace or Automotive Industries.In fact every single Plane/Helicopter flying today is made up of parts with Steel from us.So it would be hypocritical of me to get on my high horse about it.
Before our company was sold we were owned by Tata.Tata also own Tetley Tea.It was once pointed out to me(by a checkout worker) that by drinking Tetley Tea I was helping supply Arms to Terrorists.The young lady was quite shocked when I told her I also worked for Tata and really could not care less :lol:
We all directly or indirectly fund "unethical" companies.....I'm just realistic about it :wink:

I agree, we do, no matter how much we try. However, whilst accepting that, having some sort of critical view of whom we do business with is somewhat different to the attitude which you espoused, where it doesn't matter, "...it's just a name on a shirt", I'd suggest.

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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby mjr » 8 Apr 2019, 1:18pm

100%JR wrote:
mjr wrote:I can see the front pages now: "Shock revelation: People With Amoral View On Subject Friends With Person With Amoral View On Subject".

Amoral/just don't care/indifferent...all the same to me.It's just a company putting money into a Sport.Cycling(and other Sports) have a long History of "less than ethical" Sponsorship.I don't watch/follow the Sport for where the money comes from I watch it for the Racing.

Yep, sorry, indifferent would have been a far better word than amoral but it was Monday morning ;)

100%JR wrote:Far too many Tree-huggers sticking their noses in IMO :roll:

It's not only the trees that will be harmed by fracking.
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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby 100%JR » 8 Apr 2019, 1:30pm

mjr wrote:
100%JR wrote:
mjr wrote:I can see the front pages now: "Shock revelation: People With Amoral View On Subject Friends With Person With Amoral View On Subject".

Amoral/just don't care/indifferent...all the same to me.It's just a company putting money into a Sport.Cycling(and other Sports) have a long History of "less than ethical" Sponsorship.I don't watch/follow the Sport for where the money comes from I watch it for the Racing.

Yep, sorry, indifferent would have been a far better word than amoral but it was Monday morning ;)
100%JR wrote:Far too many Tree-huggers sticking their noses in IMO :roll:

It's not only the trees that will be harmed by fracking.

I'm sure getting Oil and Gas from beneath the Sea bed is totally environmentally friendly :wink: Taking all the Planets resources is never good however it's done.We as a society have come to depend on these resources so no point getting all high and mighty about how we get them.
This Planet is damaged,probably beyond repair and it as done before my parents,grandparents and even great grandparents were born.In fact we as a species have been destroying the Planet since we first set foot on it.
Someone holding a "No Fracking" sign at a protest is doing nothing to reverse this they're just trying to make themselves feel a bit better :|
I used to take part in all kinds of Marches/protests in the 80s...then I opened my eyes.

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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby mjr » 8 Apr 2019, 1:45pm

100%JR wrote:
mjr wrote:It's not only the trees that will be harmed by fracking.

I'm sure getting Oil and Gas from beneath the Sea bed is totally environmentally friendly :wink:

It's not great, no, but at least it's not harming homes.

100%JR wrote:Taking all the Planets resources is never good however it's done.We as a society have come to depend on these resources so no point getting all high and mighty about how we get them.
This Planet is damaged,probably beyond repair and it as done before my parents,grandparents and even great grandparents were born.In fact we as a species have been destroying the Planet since we first set foot on it.

Contrary to the popular quote, I don't much like the smell of pessimism in the morning.

100%JR wrote:Someone holding a "No Fracking" sign at a protest is doing nothing to reverse this they're just trying to make themselves feel a bit better :|

Why else does anyone do anything? And I think it's fairer to say they're doing very little to reverse this, by publicising the link and problem, but then what better could one person alone do to reverse it anyway?

100%JR wrote:I used to take part in all kinds of Marches/protests in the 80s...then I opened my eyes.

That may be the root of this attitude: people hate few more than those who resemble one's discarded past selves.
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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby 100%JR » 8 Apr 2019, 1:54pm

mjr wrote:That may be the root of this attitude: people hate few more than those who resemble one's discarded past selves.

I don't particularly "hate" anyone.I just think it's all a bit pointless.Some people don't see the irony in what they're doing...protesting about one thing but directly funding something just as bad :roll:
If you actually sat down and thought about it you'd either top yourself or go mad.It is what it is.Might as well just get on with it for the brief time we're here.

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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby 1982john » 9 Apr 2019, 6:30pm

100%JR wrote:
mjr wrote:That may be the root of this attitude: people hate few more than those who resemble one's discarded past selves.

I don't particularly "hate" anyone.I just think it's all a bit pointless.Some people don't see the irony in what they're doing...protesting about one thing but directly funding something just as bad :roll:
If you actually sat down and thought about it you'd either top yourself or go mad.It is what it is.Might as well just get on with it for the brief time we're here.


This is a long shot but have you read any Schopenhour? If not you really should he'd be right up your ally!

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Re: Team Sky is now Team INEOS

Postby 100%JR » 9 Apr 2019, 7:02pm

1982john wrote:
100%JR wrote:
mjr wrote:That may be the root of this attitude: people hate few more than those who resemble one's discarded past selves.

I don't particularly "hate" anyone.I just think it's all a bit pointless.Some people don't see the irony in what they're doing...protesting about one thing but directly funding something just as bad :roll:
If you actually sat down and thought about it you'd either top yourself or go mad.It is what it is.Might as well just get on with it for the brief time we're here.


This is a long shot but have you read any Schopenhour? If not you really should he'd be right up your ally!

I’ve not read an actual book since 1984(the year not the book)which was the year I left school.I don’t read Newspapers either, never bought one.
I need to leave myself something to do in my(hopefully) long retirement :wink:
My wife and daughter read all the time,me?I don’t have the time or inclination!