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I am looking for very light (and possibly quite flimsy) panniers which will pack up very small.

The threads I have found so far are about panniers for use in touring, and if the weight saving is worth the lighter construction.

I just want something that can pack into a bar bag or on top of a rear rack with minimal size, and can be unpacked and fixed to a rack if I decide I need to buy something (fresh veggies for example) part way round the route. Just for day rides.

I carry a couple of very light "pack small" bags in my pockets which can be used to carry a reasonable amount of shopping.
I'm looking for their equivalent, but with mountings to fit onto a rear (or front) rack.

I do have a Carradice rear rack bag with small fold out panniers, but I'm looking for something more portable and less bulky.
https://www.carradice.co.uk/bags/rack-packs-stuff-sacks/carradura-rack-bag

I suspect that something must be out there, I just haven't found it so far.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I already have a top rack pack (see link in OP) and I'm looking for something far lighter and smaller.

Think tiny when folded.
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You may struggle as most panniers need a rigid back to stop them from swaying and stuffing themselves into the wheel. Good luck. My thought would be a drybag and a couple of straps to allow it to be strapped on top of the rack - or to its side.
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I have used a Topeak rack bag that has pannier sections that fold out of the side pockets, similar to this.
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Alternatively a couple of Alpkit's handlebar rolls might do the job. They are made of a quite light but waterproof material & come with straps.
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I stuff veggies into a saddle bag or basket (front or rear) but if you prefer, there are some MYOG/DIY shopping bag pannier designs or instructions online. If you attached the hooks to a plank (wood or plastic) instead of a square board and added a second plank for the base, you should be able to roll the bag up but still hang it from a rack with multiple side legs/struts. It won't work on single leg racks because the bottom could twist into the spokes too easily.

Sometimes I use my little folding backpack to hold things and sometimes the saddle bag "wears" it for me!

Strapping veggies down tends to squash most of them. Except butternut squashes.
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iandriver wrote:These crop up from time to time https://www.adventurecycling.org/resour ... ctly-that/


Thanks.
Can't find a UK stockist at the moment.
Just the saddle bags.
That is the kind of thing I was thinking of (if not the kind of price).
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iandriver wrote:These crop up from time to time https://www.adventurecycling.org/resour ... ctly-that/

Looking at that link, 2 of the Alpkit 20l Airlok Dual would give you more capacity (40l v 28l) for less weight (2 x 206g v over 500g). The 13l ones would give you only a little less capacity (26l v 28l) for even less weight.
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If you already are using the Carradice rack bag, I would suggest replacing it with a single Ortlieb Back-Roller Plus. It weighs less (840g vs 915g), have larger capacity (20L vs 13.5L expanded), is waterproof, and folds up really flat and small if it is empty or only contain a tool bag and pump.

The attachment system is very good being both solid and fast to use, the shoulder strap makes it easy to carry, even with heavy loads, it has spare parts for everything, is easy to clean and fast to dry and very durable. Easy cleaning is a good idea for grocery panniers since at some point something will spill inside the pannier.

It is able to carry large bulky things by attaching the shoulder strap to the "closing strap", thereby extending it quite a bit so that it can reach around and secure bulky items.

It also extend the service life of a pump if it is carried inside a pannier instead of being exposed to rain and sunshine.

All in all I think a Back-Roller Plus will beat any foldable alternative in strength, durability, security, capacity, ease of use and maintenance.
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LittleGreyCat wrote:
iandriver wrote:These crop up from time to time https://www.adventurecycling.org/resour ... ctly-that/


Thanks.
Can't find a UK stockist at the moment.
Just the saddle bags.
That is the kind of thing I was thinking of (if not the kind of price).

The problem with making flimsy panniers is they'll cost the same as strong ones and when they tear the first time you fall off the bike the manufacturer leaves themselves open to complaint.
Making your own is probably the best bet, even better if you find a set of knackered ones, ripstop fabric is cheap and easy to find, just copy the design and reattach the fittings. If you wanted to be fancy, add some seatbelt webbing where it's going to rub. Do you have access to a sewing machine or know someone who has? Making the bag part isn't an hours work and when they rip just make new bags.
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RickH wrote:
iandriver wrote:These crop up from time to time https://www.adventurecycling.org/resour ... ctly-that/

Looking at that link, 2 of the Alpkit 20l Airlok Dual would give you more capacity (40l v 28l) for less weight (2 x 206g v over 500g). The 13l ones would give you only a little less capacity (26l v 28l) for even less weight.


I see where you are coming from, but to be honest, I'd have thought any dry bag and a couple of these would do the same job with a proper attachment.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/ort ... 11mm-e162/
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/ort ... hort-e170/

One of these as a bag https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/BAPODTOT/podsacs-dry-bag and your bringing the whole lot in for about £25 for a single panner.
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Dunno where I got them from, but here's a photo of Mercian in Tasmania in 1988 on my way back from Port Arthur to Hobart. They had nothing but nylon and straps and would fold up just like the OP was asking.
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I had them for going away on the ship. It was hard enough to stow a bike! I had to strip it down and "hide" bits in different parts of the ship! The wheels were next to my bunk. The panniers would screw up small and went in the bottom drawer of my locker.
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If you want the Arkle ones try here https://www.ghyllside.co.uk/arkel-dry-lites-panniers.html#.XQy1metKiUk

I have a mk1 version of the simialr Altura panniers -

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Had them a while but am using them for the 1st time for a tour stating tomorrow. Have replaced the elastic to the hooks with stronger elastic and sticking Gorilla tape on where will cobtact rack struts.

I think they work best when full as contents give rigidity.

Tim
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