Psamathe wrote: ↑1 Nov 2022, 12:05pm
Not only is Sunak (currently) not bothering to attend COP27 (despite UK holding the presidency) but also
Total chaos. The Minister responsible is removed from the Cabinet. The King is stopped from going by the Prime Minister. Then it's up to him. Then it isn't. The Prime Minister isn't going. But then he might.
Many things in politics are difficult. This isn't.
The Prime Minister is now going. Of course.
Jonathan
Though the debacle has shown he regards Climate as low down his priority list which, together with UK overdue on making agreed payments further damages our already deteriorating international reputation.
Interesting article about tidal turbine generation. Not really "news" but interesting how things are developing and expected generation prices in the future
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/23/tidal-stream-energy-costs-ebb-reliability-flows wrote:How tide has turned on UK tidal stream energy as costs ebb and reliability flows
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The cost of generating power from tidal streams has fallen by 40% since 2018 – and a report published last month by a government-backed research centre, Offshore Marine Catapult, forecasts prices could fall below nuclear energy in little over a decade, with one-megawatt hour of power due to cost to as little as £78 by 2035 compared with £92.50 for the new Hinkley Point C power plant.
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And with a PM who thinks private helicopter trips over short distances are fine, is the UK/World ever going to start addressing the devastation we are causing or do we just plough on with our heads in the sand?
And with a PM who thinks private helicopter trips over short distances are fine, is the UK/World ever going to start addressing the devastation we are causing or do we just plough on with our heads in the sand?
Ian
I doubt we (as in humans) will ever cut back on our excesses, it is not in our nature. Oversized and overpowered cars are here to stay, along with flying away on holiday, heating our homes so as we can wear T-shirts all winter. We will never reign it in.
The only hope is making cars, planes and heating systems that do not rely so heavily of fossil fuels and the worlds dwindling resources. But that is decades away, +5c is on the cards Climate change is on its way along with the wars unrest that it will bring. We have seen our planet at its best, the future is not pretty. Good luck to our grandchildren, we've bolluxed it up for them big time.
We cannot in fairness ask other countries to stop burning fossil fuels. They will not. In India and China manufacturing is taking off and lifting people out of dire poverty. One practical solution is to encourage organisations that give people a choice worldwide re women's education, economic justice and planned children. The planet can support only so many cars planes and non GM food. With education and prosperity many people opt for a choice of smaller families with less demands on the planet. This will impact climate change positively.
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Yup, carry on opening a few extra coal burning CO2 spewing power stations every week whilst we shiver...
Al
Reuse, recycle, thus do your bit to save the planet.... Get stuff at auctions, Dump, Charity Shops, Facebook Marketplace, Ebay, Car Boots. Choose an Old House, and a Banger ..... And cycle as often as you can......
al_yrpal wrote: ↑7 Sep 2023, 7:32am
Yup, carry on opening a few extra coal burning CO2 spewing power stations every week whilst we shiver...
Al
Ah Brexit level equivalence ...
Climate change involves us ALL reducing our energy uses . But if an excess is to used then those in need have to have a greater call on those resources.
But in the West all most people care about is blaming other people while doing little to nothing to reduce their own excesses/
Pebble wrote: ↑6 Sep 2023, 1:03pm
I doubt we (as in humans) will ever cut back on our excesses, it is not in our nature. Oversized and overpowered cars are here to stay, along with flying away on holiday, heating our homes so as we can wear T-shirts all winter. We will never reign it in.
The only hope is making cars, planes and heating systems that do not rely so heavily of fossil fuels and the worlds dwindling resources. But that is decades away, +5c is on the cards Climate change is on its way along with the wars unrest that it will bring. We have seen our planet at its best, the future is not pretty. Good luck to our grandchildren, we've bolluxed it up for them big time.
Agreed!
I cannot see anything that gives me hope things will be any different in the future,how close to that future we are I really don't know,but I suspect once the house of cards begins to fall the collapse will be devastating and quicker than many believe.
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al_yrpal wrote: ↑7 Sep 2023, 7:32am
Yup, carry on opening a few extra coal burning CO2 spewing power stations every week whilst we shiver...
Al
You've been blowing that trumpet for some time now.
The shivering you mention is only for some but worse still,it's man made by a capitalism that cares nought for humanity only profit.
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"All we are not stares back at what we are"
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Dont forget Vlad the Invader he has made things much worse, and all the wind farm and solar panel wallahs watching their profits soar in the absence of any extra costs.
Al
Reuse, recycle, thus do your bit to save the planet.... Get stuff at auctions, Dump, Charity Shops, Facebook Marketplace, Ebay, Car Boots. Choose an Old House, and a Banger ..... And cycle as often as you can......
al_yrpal wrote: ↑7 Sep 2023, 12:52pm
Dont forget Vlad the Invader he has made things much worse, and all the wind farm and solar panel wallahs watching their profits soar in the absence of any extra costs.
Al
No energy companies have submitted bids in the government’s offshore wind auction, sources have said, in what would be a significant blow to Rishi Sunak’s plans to meet climate targets and drive down energy bills.
Industry insiders suggested not a single firm had taken part in the auction for financial support contracts after the government ignored warnings that the offer was too low to reflect soaring costs.
UK seems to have moved very much into telling the rest of the world what to do but not prepared to do it themselves. Up to the rest of the world to make the changes and bear the impacts 'cos the UK is not prepared to actually change anything .
