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Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 11:13am
by Shoogle
Why is it, in news reports, a pedestrian is always hit by a car and never a motorist but if it’s a bike, it’s always a cyclist and never a bike?
Re: Bad News
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 11:22am
by Tangled Metal
Just had an idea. Not the real reason, which is probably prejudice, but it's highly unlikely for a motorist being the point of contact with a pedestrian. It is more likely a cyclist hits a pedestrian though. That's the difference between a metal exoskeleton and endoskeleton.
Of course not the real reason as discussed many times on the forum before, take a search around past threads and see where the forum went with this discussion in the past.

Re: Bad News
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 11:25am
by whoof
Been saying this for a while. Have read newspaper storys with wording similar to "woman 83 gets
herself stuck under car and being in collision with it".
" Man dies whilst walking on A38" This was as the result been hit by a motor vehicle.
It's been studied
https://road.cc/content/news/226710-med ... researcher
Re: Bad News
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 11:48am
by mattheus
Don't forget "dangerous roads" !!!
Re: Bad News
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 12:19pm
by Tangled Metal
"Helmet saved my life"!
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 2:01pm
by brooksby
And how cars are always turning
themselves over or running
themselves off the road, etc. Anyone would think that they were some sort of wild or semi-domesticated animal rather than a machine

Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 2:11pm
by Mike Sales
brooksby wrote:And how cars are always turning
themselves over or running
themselves off the road, etc. Anyone would think that they were some sort of wild or semi-domesticated animal rather than a machine

Yes, cars get out of control. It takes a skilled driver to rein them in, and sometimes the car wins the struggle!
Do bikes never run amok? Like the machines in
The Third Policeman which are more than half human?
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 2:23pm
by Mike Sales
And if "the cyclist collided with the car" is a neutral statement, then "the wall collided with the car" would make sense,
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 2:24pm
by brooksby
Mike Sales wrote:brooksby wrote:And how cars are always turning
themselves over or running
themselves off the road, etc. Anyone would think that they were some sort of wild or semi-domesticated animal rather than a machine

Yes, cars get out of control. It takes a skilled driver to rein them in, and sometimes the car wins the struggle!
Do bikes never run amok? Like the machines in
The Third Policeman which are more than half human?
"Is it about a bicycle...?"
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 2:31pm
by Mike Sales
brooksby wrote:
"Is it about a bicycle...?"
I am sure you know about the mollycule theory, but I cannot resist quoting it.
“The gross and net result of it is that people who spent most of their natural lives riding iron bicycles over the rocky roadsteads of this parish get their personalities mixed up with the personalities of their bicycle as a result of the interchanging of the atoms of each of them and you would be surprised at the number of people in these parts who are nearly half people and half bicycles...when a man lets things go so far that he is more than half a bicycle, you will not see him so much because he spends a lot of his time leaning with one elbow on walls or standing propped by one foot at kerbstones.”
― Flann O'Brien, The Third Policeman
‘The last hanging we had in this parish,’ he said, ‘was thiry years ago. It was a very famous man called MacDadd. He held the record for the hundred miles on a solid tyre. I need to tell you what the solid tyre did for him. We had to hang the bicycle.’
‘Hang the bicycle?’
‘MacDadd had a first-class grudge against another man called Figgerson but he did not go near Figgerson. He knew how things stood and gave Figgerson’s bicycle a terrible thrashing with a crowbar. After that MacDadd and Figgerson had a fight and Figgerson – a dark man with glasses – did not live to know who the winner was. There was a great wake and he was buried with his bicycle. Did you ever see a bicycle-shaped coffin?’
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 3:01pm
by Bmblbzzz
This erasure of the human within the car goes against the driver too. A local news report of a small demonstration said the protestors were "holding up cars".
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 3:42pm
by mattheus
Mike Sales wrote:And if "the cyclist collided with the car" is a neutral statement, then "the wall collided with the car" would make sense,
If the wall was moving, that would be neutral(ish). This is rather unlikely, but possible!
If the cyclist was NOT moving, then I'd say the first statement was nonsense.
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 12:33pm
by peetee
RTA. Road Traffic Accident.
Accident?
Carelessness or willful negligence in most cases.
Re: Bad News : implied blame in news reporting
Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 3:39pm
by Tangled Metal
Road and traffic had the accident not the car or human contents.