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Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 5:57pm
by pjclinch
matt2matt2002 wrote:Nearly about to splash the cash for the NX2 after a lot of consideration. Weight size etc.
Anyone any thoughts on an alternative?


We have a Hubba Hubba HP (a now discontinued model with less mesh on the inner that also had a higher spec fly than the standard model of the time) and on the whole t's pretty good, though not perfect, but no tent is and it's worth noting that as tent designs are compromises it's often the case that one campers Bug is another camper's Feature...

Things I dislike...
The groundsheet is on the thin side, which makes it very prone to condensation if you park on boggy ground on a humid day (we use it n Scotland, up mountains more than cycle touring, and that is not exceptional).
With the amount of mesh in the NX2 I'd not be that happy as I prefer "solid" fabrics over most of my inners, at least the roof (so condensation coming off when you trip over the guyline runs off, rather than lands inside the inner).
The guying options are a bit limited without a bit of surgery to add some more, though this is again something that would be more of an issue to me up a mountain than a typical cycle tourist.
I prefer all-in-one or fly first pitching. Some people might tell you that, especially with the footprint to anchor the poles fly-first is possible with the HH, but it's a contrived PITA and really not the same as a tent designed to go up outside-first or all together.
The fly has a PU coating on the inside to take seam tape, and that makes it a lot weaker than silicone elastomer both sides and PU coatings don't seem to last as well in storage.

Things I like...
It's very light for the space
The space is arranged well so 2 people can fit inside well, taking an end and porch each rather than a side each
Design touches like peg tensioners, pockets etc. are well executed.
Twin entrances/porches (I like that even on my own).

Things which may be bad, may be good...
The fly doesn't come down to the ground, which on the one hand makes it cooler in hot weather but also makes it cooler in cold weather.

The real deal-maker for us was we got it for a very good second hand price and it was initially as a bedroom for our kids on cycle tours. They've flown the nest now, so we've taken to using it ourselves and I'm sort-of looking for a replacement that caters to the points above, but that's mainly because I'm a sad gear junkie rather than the design is borken.
I'd very much like a look at a Hilleberg Rogen in the flesh, and then to pick the relevant lottery numbers to pay for one if it hit all the bases I suspect it might (the main thing I need to check is how the interior volume works with both of us in it at once). We have a couple of Hilles (a Tarra for storm bunker use out of sea kayaks where weight and bulk much less of an issue than strength and a Kaitum 3 for acres of space and good strength at a reasonable weight) and I find their design and execution very much in line with my likes... but you do have to pay a lot for for them.

Pete.

Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 6:08pm
by pjclinch
dim wrote:Hi Pete .... I will be buying used off Ebay and will look at spending between £500-£600 but then it must be in very good condition

I like the Hilleberg Nammatj 2 but will look at similar other Hilleberg tents when the time comes and I have the cash

I'm not planning to use it during winter and icy conditions, and my 1st cycling touring trip will be in May / June 2020 along a part of the Wild Atlantic way in Ireland ( wild camping/fishing where I can, and the rest will be in B&B etc).... I really enjoy fishing and want to combine that with cycle touring

I've also been looking at the Hebrides for 2020 aswell as along the coast of Scotland, but I'm not sure if I will get time off work, or if my wife will let me :lol:


Here's our Kaitum 3 on South Uist...
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If you're not looking at winter then the overall one-porch tapered inner tunnel design of the Nammatj is shared with the Nallo and Anjan, which are still both good and strong but quite a bit lighter and with less packing bulk (so more space for the fishing gear!)

Pete.

Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 6:21pm
by dim
pjclinch wrote:
dim wrote:Hi Pete .... I will be buying used off Ebay and will look at spending between £500-£600 but then it must be in very good condition

I like the Hilleberg Nammatj 2 but will look at similar other Hilleberg tents when the time comes and I have the cash

I'm not planning to use it during winter and icy conditions, and my 1st cycling touring trip will be in May / June 2020 along a part of the Wild Atlantic way in Ireland ( wild camping/fishing where I can, and the rest will be in B&B etc).... I really enjoy fishing and want to combine that with cycle touring

I've also been looking at the Hebrides for 2020 aswell as along the coast of Scotland, but I'm not sure if I will get time off work, or if my wife will let me :lol:


Here's our Kaitum 3 on South Uist...
Image

If you're not looking at winter then the overall one-porch tapered inner tunnel design of the Nammatj is shared with the Nallo and Anjan, which are still both good and strong but quite a bit lighter and with less packing bulk (so more space for the fishing gear!)

Pete.


thanks Pete ... I have bookmarked this thread and will pm you for your advice when I'm ready to buy

Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 4 Jan 2020, 7:51am
by MrsHJ
I have a hubba hubba NX. I’ll give it an “it’s ok”.

I also have a Big Agnes copper spur bikepacking tent. I didn’t pay £400 though- closer to £300 from memory. Love it- similar design to the hubba hubba but just worked better for me with various niggles ironed out. Great pack size and shape for a pannier too. They also do a two person version.

https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk ... ent-p10889

Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 7:04pm
by matt2matt2002
Many thanks folks. I took the plunge with the Hubba Hubba NX2.
I'll be trying it out as soon as the weather settles down!

Re: Hubba Hubba nx2 alternative

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 9:20pm
by willem jongman
Just bought a Helsport Ringstind Superlight 2 model 2019 in a sale at 55% of the regular price. 1.45 kg for a tight fit for two and generous space for one. The plan is to use it in Spring and Autumn, and perhaps particularly in northern Europe. I pitched it in the garden just before the stormy weather and it looks very well made.