Extinction Rebellion

[Cugel]

It is an extremist ideology, but that doesn’t make it wrong. To brand them terrorists would be wrong. I understand this has now been withdrawn. I do wish they would not target the trains and tube, they are the way to tackle climate change.

In what way is it an ideology rather than a pressing concern that our current large scale human behaviours are likely to kill most of us in the very near future?

In what way is it extreme to discomfort a few nose-to-the-grindstoners from getting to their grindstones, if the delay allows their attention to be brought to the matter of their grindstoning being something of a cause in the ongoing extinction?

But perhaps you think this climate change stuff is all either made-up or won't bother your lifestyle a bit?

Cugel

[carpetcleaner]

Some Extinction Rebellion types have openly declared they will break the law in order to further their agendas.

That is not enough to class the movement in the same bracket as a terrorist organisations but perhaps we should require teachers, employers and other people to report suspected membership of it to the police so that possible illegal acts can be predicted and prevented. Respect for the law is required of all of us, and being white, middle class and claiming to want to save the planet does not offer immunity from this obligation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... sobedience

[Oldjohnw]

What a miserable, tawdry little England we are becoming. Report school children to the police for possible illegal acts.

What next? Thought police?

[Mike Sales]

What a miserable, tawdry little England we are becoming. Report school children to the police for possible illegal acts.

What next? Thought police?

Not next, but thought police already.

[reohn2]

What a miserable, tawdry little England we are becoming. Report school children to the police for possible illegal acts.

What next? Thought police?

Not next, but thought police already.

Quite.
They know where you are and what you're upto,the smart phone is a great story teller.

[kwackers]

but perhaps we should require teachers, employers and other people to report suspected membership of it to the police so that possible illegal acts can be predicted and prevented.

We could create a special branch of the police to handle such things, perhaps we could call them "STASI"?

Respect for the law is required of all of us

Yep. If only gay folk had more respect for it back in the day.
Mind you once we get the STASI going we could perhaps turn the clock back and round them all up?

[Oldjohnw]

Pastor Niemoller: "First they came for the Communists......"

[Jdsk]

"MPs today blasted an 'outrageous' decision by a jury to unanimously clear three Extinction Rebellion activists of obstructing the railway on a Docklands Light Railway train - after the group claimed their actions were justified by their Christian faith and fears for their grandchildren.":
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ilway.html

This reminds me of something...

Jonathan

[niggle]

In light of the total debacle that was COP26 I think a defence of “necessity” should apply to all non violent climate protests. Clearly nothing short of total rebellion is going to get our politicians to do anything about it in time to limit the damage to anything like survivable.

[Pebble]

In light of the total debacle that was COP26 I think a defence of “necessity” should apply to all non violent climate protests. Clearly nothing short of total rebellion is going to get our politicians to do anything about it in time to limit the damage to anything like survivable.

Probably need to start interrupting their non stop partying

[Jdsk]

"Jury clears climate protesters of causing damage to HSBC London HQ":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -london-hq

Jonathan

[mattheus]

"Jury clears climate protesters of causing damage to HSBC London HQ":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -london-hq

Jonathan

Great news.

(and interesting to see this thread is already 4 years old)

[mattheus]

That utterly undermines any justification for the type of terrorism you seek to defend

And we've already had at least 4 years of people calling non-violent protest "terrorism". Laughable!

[Jdsk]

"Jury clears climate protesters of causing damage to HSBC London HQ":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -london-hq

And one of them tells her story:

"We smashed the windows of a major bank. A jury acquitted us. This is why.":
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ate-crisis

Jonathan

[ANTONISH]

Juries occasionally deliver perverse verdicts.
In this case the defendants admitted smashing windows but are found not guilty.
Their actions were based on sincerely held beliefs.

I wonder what level of crime could be defended as long as it was committed because of a sincerely held belief?
Planting a bomb on public transport for example?