One for all bike.

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mig
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c'mon now. this just can't be done :wink:
you have more than one pair of shoes right?
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Andy Wilkinson uses the same do it all bike for a 541 mile 24h time trial, touring, and off road (if not too difficult.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/andy ... bike-29431
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=49102.25

Clearance for 29-er tyres, braze ons for racks etc, several pairs of wheels, and a good stock of chainrings & cassettes mean the same bike can be customised for whatever is wanted
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rjb wrote:Well that brings a new dimension to the term "Wheel Sucker". :lol:

I thought it was an F1-alike way of generating downforce.
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'There are, in fact, three distinctly different "ordinary" uses of a bicycle, and ideally the enthusiastic cyclist needs at least three different machines.' Reginald C. Shaw, Teach Yourself Cycling, 1953 :)
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Sid Aluminium wrote:'There are, in fact, three distinctly different "ordinary" uses of a bicycle, and ideally the enthusiastic cyclist needs at least three different machines.' Reginald C. Shaw, Teach Yourself Cycling, 1953 :)


1953!? Outtadate, that, now.

According to a cycling website I just perused, one now needs 17 different bikes, otherwise the socio-economic edifice will crumble and cycling magazines will have nothing to write about.

I bet that Reginald only had one greenspot jacket an' all!

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Who has room for 17 bikes?
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Greystoke wrote:Who has room for 17 bikes?


The owners of vast sheds that can be seen from space.

The record that I know of (not counting hoarder-collectors) is 47, jammed into a vast shed and all users, by a family of four cyclists two of whom are avid young competitors in road, CX, MTB and any other pedalling sport going. Now, I suspect that of the 47 there are a number that lie idle for some months - perhaps longer, as they become more obscured by numbers 48. 49, 50 ........

But I bet someone else knows of an even greater shed-jam of user-bikes.

Those collector-hoarders and their 397 bikes of yesteryear don't count; unless all said bikes are ridden at least once a year for at least 20 miles, that is.

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Crikey
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Greystoke wrote:Who has room for 17 bikes?

I know someone who has over 90! (I haven't seen him for a while so don't know the exact figure as it is sure to have increased!)
He is single, and I believe moving around inside his house is quite difficult!
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I think I need to purchase a one for all bike.....
I'd still keep and use the others....! :D :D :D

Cheers James
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andrew_s wrote:Andy Wilkinson uses the same do it all bike for a 541 mile 24h time trial, touring, and off road (if not too difficult.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/andy ... bike-29431
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=49102.25

Clearance for 29-er tyres, braze ons for racks etc, several pairs of wheels, and a good stock of chainrings & cassettes mean the same bike can be customised for whatever is wanted

He'll struggle off road with those bars, my one for all bike also fits 2.1s if need be though the widest I've fitted is 51mm slicks, that bike might be fine for him but it's too low down for truly comfortable touring, and commuting, I personally don't think that position is ideal for the daily grind in traffic.
There's always a certain compromise for some activities with a do it all bike, his is more race/TT orientated, I reckon my own my bike to be more versatile for more types of rider as well as being able to ride properly off road in muddy conditions and have the control that a set of drops offer compared to the TT bars. Having the front low rider mounts also makes load carrying easier too.

That said it's a very, very nice rig, I've yet to try my one for all with deep carbon hoops but have got some carbon pads for the mini Vs.
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The utility cyclist wrote:
andrew_s wrote:Andy Wilkinson uses the same do it all bike for a 541 mile 24h time trial, touring, and off road (if not too difficult.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/andy ... bike-29431
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=49102.25

Clearance for 29-er tyres, braze ons for racks etc, several pairs of wheels, and a good stock of chainrings & cassettes mean the same bike can be customised for whatever is wanted

He'll struggle off road with those bars, my one for all bike also fits 2.1s if need be though the widest I've fitted is 51mm slicks, that bike might be fine for him but it's too low down for truly comfortable touring, and commuting, I personally don't think that position is ideal for the daily grind in traffic.


Andy Wilkinson is a great bike handler. Many years ago he rode the Dyfi Enduro mtb event on what I'd describe as a Cannondale hybrid with probably 38mm tyres max, He finished with a high placing on what was a very rocky technical course.
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brumster wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:
andrew_s wrote:Andy Wilkinson uses the same do it all bike for a 541 mile 24h time trial, touring, and off road (if not too difficult.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/andy ... bike-29431
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=49102.25

Clearance for 29-er tyres, braze ons for racks etc, several pairs of wheels, and a good stock of chainrings & cassettes mean the same bike can be customised for whatever is wanted

He'll struggle off road with those bars, my one for all bike also fits 2.1s if need be though the widest I've fitted is 51mm slicks, that bike might be fine for him but it's too low down for truly comfortable touring, and commuting, I personally don't think that position is ideal for the daily grind in traffic.


Andy Wilkinson is a great bike handler. Many years ago he rode the Dyfi Enduro mtb event on what I'd describe as a Cannondale hybrid with probably 38mm tyres max, He finished with a high placing on what was a very rocky technical course.

I'm sure he is but the whole low down position and TT bars is gonna make it more than a tad tricky in a proper gravel/technical conditions, you mentioning a hybrid being used by him for an enduro event is a totally different kettle of fish, the flat bars and more upright position aid massively compared to doing off road with TT bars.
it's not a criticism but for mere mortals it's not really a do it all bike in that set up of the cockpit, proper off road with drops can be very difficult at the best of times even if you have the correct rubber/pressures and some brave pills, navigating with those outboards pods is going to be, and I think I'm being conservative in saying, extremely challenging for 99.999% of the population of cyclists.
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The utility cyclist wrote:
brumster wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:He'll struggle off road with those bars, my one for all bike also fits 2.1s if need be though the widest I've fitted is 51mm slicks, that bike might be fine for him but it's too low down for truly comfortable touring, and commuting, I personally don't think that position is ideal for the daily grind in traffic.


Andy Wilkinson is a great bike handler. Many years ago he rode the Dyfi Enduro mtb event on what I'd describe as a Cannondale hybrid with probably 38mm tyres max, He finished with a high placing on what was a very rocky technical course.

I'm sure he is but the whole low down position and TT bars is gonna make it more than a tad tricky in a proper gravel/technical conditions, you mentioning a hybrid being used by him for an enduro event is a totally different kettle of fish, the flat bars and more upright position aid massively compared to doing off road with TT bars.
it's not a criticism but for mere mortals it's not really a do it all bike in that set up of the cockpit, proper off road with drops can be very difficult at the best of times even if you have the correct rubber/pressures and some brave pills, navigating with those outboards pods is going to be, and I think I'm being conservative in saying, extremely challenging for 99.999% of the population of cyclists.

The one thing to learn from that bike is the triple chainset, which makes possible a wider gear range, without awkward jumps, than you could have with a compact double. If you want a bike for a wide variety of applications, a wide gear range helps.
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pwa wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:
brumster wrote:
Andy Wilkinson is a great bike handler. Many years ago he rode the Dyfi Enduro mtb event on what I'd describe as a Cannondale hybrid with probably 38mm tyres max, He finished with a high placing on what was a very rocky technical course.

I'm sure he is but the whole low down position and TT bars is gonna make it more than a tad tricky in a proper gravel/technical conditions, you mentioning a hybrid being used by him for an enduro event is a totally different kettle of fish, the flat bars and more upright position aid massively compared to doing off road with TT bars.
it's not a criticism but for mere mortals it's not really a do it all bike in that set up of the cockpit, proper off road with drops can be very difficult at the best of times even if you have the correct rubber/pressures and some brave pills, navigating with those outboards pods is going to be, and I think I'm being conservative in saying, extremely challenging for 99.999% of the population of cyclists.

The one thing to learn from that bike is the triple chainset, which makes possible a wider gear range, without awkward jumps, than you could have with a compact double. If you want a bike for a wide variety of applications, a wide gear range helps.


Oh definitely, I had a Campag 53/42/24 fitted to a 'Chick' branded frameset a few years back, the 8 speed cassette was a special all alu 13-30 job, it was an delight to ride and gave such a wide gearing option, plus those 8 speed ergos were massively nicer than the Shimano equivalent, even going into the 9 speed era Campag Ergos were light years ahead in shifting terms for me.
I do sometimes use a 50/28 double on the S/light 86BCD with a 13-36 Suntour 6 speed if I know I'm going to be doing silly steep climbing on my old Carlton which is useful, but I still prefer 50/39/24 with 11-28 10 speed or 11-30, 11 speed to cover all the bases.
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