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Hi,
It finally arrived to day
With the view of using it for my end to end trip.
Speced at 690 grams, actually 730 grams with 10 steel pegs, all bags but alu shaped poles
Who knows if its even waterproof, single skin small vent, plenty of condensation probably
The shape is just right and plenty of space to store gear overnight.
Right colour too, is it worth geting lighter pegs?
My alu pegs are 15 grams, mini steel ones supplied are 12 grams Titanium I guess are 4-6 grams?
Taped seams.
220 cm long x 85cm wide, tapering to 50 cm foot x 45 cm high tapering to 28 cm at foot.
Ideal weather to test out, I am a shade under 6', cost about £32 - £36 post free ebay, took three weeks to arrive.
Only needs to survive one trip

Edited Dimensions corrected Thanks foxy

Hi,
If I don't suffocate first
Thinking it needs better venting.

What EXACTLY is it ??.....Do you have a link....Please ??

I'm minimalistic by nature (unlike my wife... ) It looks like the sort of place that I could live in....

Hi,

Tiberius wrote:What EXACTLY is it ??.....Do you have a link....Please ??

I'm minimalistic by nature (unlike my wife... ) It looks like the sort of place that I could live in....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-Cam ... 3854296511
Several sellers on ebay.
Mine took three weeks with a bit of carrot dangling, promised 10 days, sent tracked free 20 p gift
But they did get it there in the end.
UK suppliers are still chinese based and lie a lot on stock.

Will try and test soon, actual sizes are as posted and easy to get in to.
There are flaws but for the price...............we will see.

I am not really that milimistic either just well weathered over the years
Once you say bivvy hooped breathable it starts at 1 kg and £200.

i'm guessing you mean mm not cm on some of those measurements

Given my nominal 2 man double skin tent comes in at a tad under a kilo, has bags of space and has a 10kmm waterproof head, apart from price, why should i even look at something like this. Weight Weenie i may be but it still needs to be fit for purpose!

Hi,

foxyrider wrote:i'm guessing you mean mm not cm on some of those measurements

Given my nominal 2 man double skin tent comes in at a tad under a kilo, has bags of space and has a 10kmm waterproof head, apart from price, why should i even look at something like this. Weight Weenie i may be but it still needs to be fit for purpose!

Oh yes yes.
Under 12 inches I always use mm.
Over 12 inches I tend to use inches, up to say 3 Metres.
Then its any ones guess, I then write both units just in case.
I will stick to my tried and tested method in future
Sounds silly but you cant confuse inches as a number.
Say one point six metres, or one metre 60 cms...............1060! thats an easy mistake, thats why I use inches on my wood work drawings.

Hi,
Weights-

1) Big pole dia 7 mm x 14 " each section.................................77

2) Small pole dia 7 mm x 14 " each section..............................50

3) Steel pegs 125mm long, 10 off........................................121

4) Guy lines 2.7 mm x 150 mm long, 4 off..............................17

5) Tent.......................................................................444

6) Peg bag......................................................................8

7) Pole bag....................................................................11

8] Tent bag....................................................................20

Grand total..........................748 grams

Take off bags at 39 grams = 709 grams.
Add some Titanium pegs.
I dont own any so not sure weight, they seem to vary 2-6 even more grams each?
Are they robust enough?
Claimed weight 690 grams.

NATURAL ANKLING

Thank you for the reply and information....Appreciated.

hi,
Yes it's a cheap tent/whatever.
The sales advert on many of the eBay sales it's basically the same there isn't much there that the article isn't.
Only the weight is a little pessimistic, if you can save 50 g on the pegs if you have some lighter ones then you will be down To less than 700 g.

For the money the quality isn't that bad at all.
More later.
In my table of weights the values are total that item.

Hi,

foxyrider wrote:i'm guessing you mean mm not cm on some of those measurements

Given my nominal 2 man double skin tent comes in at a tad under a kilo, has bags of space and has a 10kmm waterproof head, apart from price, why should i even look at something like this. Weight Weenie i may be but it still needs to be fit for purpose!

Yes I understand exactly what you're saying.
Number one cost, I could literally buy anything I wanted tomorrow.
But I'm practical in the way that I have to consider how much I'm going to use it and how little I can get away with.
On my coast trip I managed with less than a kilo for a bivvy bag and Sleeping bag.
I was lucky with the bus shelters
I'm only intending to use it for just over a week on end to end trip in mid summer, and back again of course.
For my purposes I just need something that is quick to put up with a minimum floor space at the end of the day that I can crawl into.
I don't need to sit up or cook et cetera et cetera.
Years ago are used to backpack camping I would take everything but the kitchen sink.
Have a little bit more sense now, i'll just take what I need for the conditions and the weather.
I don't think I'm going to be that cold either, although I am expecting two or three nights where I will be close to comfort.
that sort of thing doesn't bother me that much.
If I wasn't wishing to put people off introducing them to camping then you would simply need to spend more money for a safety buffer and carry slightly more kit.
Is your double skin tent inner solid or part mesh?

I haven't ruled out and I'm quite happy to dig deeper and buy something better and more expensive of course, but I already have several tents 3 one man tents And many other two man and up.
For long trips and varying whether you would almost certainly need a 1 &1/2 to two man tent.
Footprint size Is quite important when you just stop and camp, I found that out many years ago solo camping with a two man tent, I have also struggled to find a flat spot for a single person as it got dark on rocky hilly ground.
Number one You need to be at a lie down on a flat piece of land the size of your body.
Number two, it needs to be bigger to be able to pitch correctly.
my style is normally to keep going till it gets dark or into the night, so finding a suitable spot is sometimes almost impossible.
I know that doesn't suit everybody but it's what I am used to and I quite like it to, Certainly it's most efficient for Getting the most miles in the day, for someone who doesn't sleep much anyway.

I used to use this Gelert solo. It was about 1kg. Easy to carry when backpacking and I've used it on the top of mountains.

The drawback was lack of height. Better tents with similar weight and more height were available but at greater coat. The Gelert cost me about £23 8 years or so ago.

Hi,
Just to clarify in my first post I said 730 g.
I couldn't figure out how my total came to 748?
On first measure I decided but I did not need to include the whole tent bag which is 20 g.
So the 730 is correct if you are dividing the tent up to carry.
The two extra grams are obviously errors rounding up weighing several items, As the measuring scale has a 1 g resolution.
Oh there is a material tie like a sash which holds the tent folded to put it in the tent bag, I did not weigh that at all as I wouldn't probably use it, lacky bands do that normally.

Hi,

Oldjohnw wrote:WP_20170627_13_43_40_Pro.jpg

I used to use this Gelert solo. It was about 1kg. Easy to carry when backpacking and I've used it on the top of mountains.

The drawback was lack of height. Better tents with similar weight and more height were available but at greater coat. The Gelert cost me about £23 8 years or so ago.

I think your find that the gelert solo which I don't think is available anymore? But which is identical to the "Highlander Blackthorn 1 Solo Lightweight Backpacking Tent" Is 1.5 kg.
If you were to ditch the fibreglass polls and replace them with aluminium you could get the weight down a little bit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Highlander-B ... ABE2wVcSgQ

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gelert-Solo-On ... B00322QRQE
https://www.mudandroutes.com/gelert-sol ... ding-page/


This is the tent you want!
https://sectionhiker.com/eureka-spitfir ... -review-2/
I am 6' and its perfect for me, you can sit up and change clothes in side.

I've got Ti pegss ranging from 2g wire skewers, 5g std skewers and i think 8g V pegs - depending on where i'm going ie soil type, i will vary what i take along. The wire 'pins' do work but they are easy to misplace and damage so i usually carry a pair for the hardly ever used guys.

My current 'in use' tent is a Vaude Powerlizard SL, mesh 'windows' at either end of the inner and a 1/3rd mesh panel on the inner door.

A couple of pics from its first tour in 2013 to Switzerland, here at the campsite at the top of the Jaun Pass. It was August but i woke to frost/ice on the outer!

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,

Oldjohnw wrote:WP_20170627_13_43_40_Pro.jpg

I used to use this Gelert solo. It was about 1kg. Easy to carry when backpacking and I've used it on the top of mountains.

The drawback was lack of height. Better tents with similar weight and more height were available but at greater coat. The Gelert cost me about £23 8 years or so ago.

I think your find that the gelert solo which I don't think is available anymore? But which is identical to the "Highlander Blackthorn 1 Solo Lightweight Backpacking Tent" Is 1.5 kg.
If you were to ditch the fibreglass polls and replace them with aluminium you could get the weight down a little bit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Highlander-B ... ABE2wVcSgQ
2020-03-30_141735.jpg
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gelert-Solo-On ... B00322QRQE
https://www.mudandroutes.com/gelert-sol ... ding-page/
2020-03-30_141838.jpg
71OxV9jPA+L._AC_SL1500_.jpg
This is the tent you want!
https://sectionhiker.com/eureka-spitfir ... -review-2/
I am 6' and its perfect for me, you can sit up and change clothes in side.

I now have a Berghaus peak. Slightly heavier but loads more room. Since I use it when cycling the 1.5kg is not a problem. I use a bivvy when walking.