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Re: Mudguards

Posted: 10 May 2020, 3:46pm
by reohn2
Brucey wrote:where's the Ferguson coupling....?

cheers

Ploughing's all done for this year so it's been removed so I can play :D

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 10 May 2020, 3:54pm
by reohn2
Cugel wrote:
Brucey wrote:where's the Ferguson coupling....?

cheers


What it needs is a front rack where a collie can sit, barking madly at anything looking a bit suspect (which is everything).

Cugel, having a bit of tyre envy.

A distinct Collie shortage here,here's Elliot now sadly departed :( :-
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Re: Mudguards

Posted: 10 May 2020, 4:55pm
by MIB2020
Reohn2, cheers, I only need a rear as I can’t fit a rack with the current set up , coincidence but it is for a dog basket! , the front works well and am happy with a bit of fettling :D

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 6:31am
by londonbikerider
reohn2 wrote:I'm not lucky,I simply chose a machine capable of fitting m/guards to ...
You're simply wrong in that assumption....
they're not just buy and fit,there's quite a bit of fettling to do for a solid and effective fit...
The front is a rear cut to length...


So according to you I'm simply wrong and your bike is made to for mudguards, but then you said there's a lot of faff to do.
The whole sentence is not running on straight tracks.

Either way, whenever I've been in the mud I had noticed that the speed is seldom high enough to cause the mud lifting from the tyres and spray the back. On tarmac roads, with slick tyres, surely there's a lot of spray coming from the wheels, and it ought to be the reason why I have full mudguards for that :)

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 8:07am
by reohn2
londonbikerider wrote:So according to you I'm simply wrong and your bike is made to for mudguards, but then you said there's a lot of faff to do.
The whole sentence is not running on straight tracks.

You can please yourself whatever you think,long experience of riding off road in one form or another has taught me what I need and the best way to acheive it.

Either way, whenever I've been in the mud I had noticed that the speed is seldom high enough to cause the mud lifting from the tyres and spray the back

Really?
You musn't be trying hard enough,and it's not just the back that gets covered without mudguards,the legs face chest and groin get their fair share too,not to mention the bike itself especially the drivetrain

On tarmac roads, with slick tyres, surely there's a lot of spray coming from the wheels, and it ought to be the reason why I have full mudguards for that :)

Well at least we agree on that :)

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 9:44am
by londonbikerider
This thread had already shown that "holier than thou" attitude, so if your think that people like me -moving along in mud at the average of 10Mph- are not trying hard enough, then I'd respectfully leave your to your opinions.
Which you seem to back up so hard that "people get cold because they didn't have mudguards".

People like me, the ones not trying hard enough but simply enjoying their ride, try to avoid more complications and things that can break ("what's not there is not going to break").

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 10:00am
by hoppy58
..for off road, I can recommend sks velo guards, fitted with the optional oversize one-piece ‘U’ stays. They’re more rigid than standard sks guards and are very simple to fit. I’ve fitted mud flaps for extra spray protection. With 40mm tyres there’s loads of mud space on my vagabond, they work for 2.1s as well but with less space leading to the occasional ‘buzz’ on rocky ground.

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 11:51am
by AndyK
MIB2020 wrote:Why are mudguards out of fashion? On gravel and mountain bikes especially they stop mud going in your face and up your back.

They aren't. Next question.

Seriously, there's a boom in mudguards like there hasn't been for decades. For instance take a look at Wiggle's mudguard section: 105 different product lines. A few years ago that would have been a couple of dozen at most. Mudguards are commonplace on road clubs' winter training rides, even if they tend to be the minimalist kind. A lot of the roadies I know are switching to bikes with 28mm tyres or wider and mudguards through the winter and early spring.

As road.cc's "Gravel and adventure bike buyer's guide" puts it, "While gravel bikes and adventure road bikes have grown from the gravel racing scene, manufacturers have been wise to cotton on to their do-it-all appeal, and many equip their gravel bikes and adventure road bikes with eyelets for fitting racks and mudguards."

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 3:52pm
by reohn2
londonbikerider wrote:This thread had already shown that "holier than thou" attitude, so if your think that people like me -moving along in mud at the average of 10Mph- are not trying hard enough, then I'd respectfully leave your to your opinions.
Which you seem to back up so hard that "people get cold because they didn't have mudguards".

People like me, the ones not trying hard enough but simply enjoying their ride, try to avoid more complications and things that can break ("what's not there is not going to break").

FWIW,you can do exactly as you please I couldn't give a monkeys.
The thread is about mudguards,I posted on the thread about mudguards and why they're a very good idea on bikes in the UK climate and particularly when riding off road.
No need to get all upset about it if you don't like mudguards or don't see a need for them suit yourself it's a free country,but don't complain about someone who posts about mudguards on a thread about mudguards or get all woolly.

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 3:56pm
by reohn2
hoppy58 wrote:..for off road, I can recommend sks velo guards, fitted with the optional oversize one-piece ‘U’ stays. They’re more rigid than standard sks guards and are very simple to fit. I’ve fitted mud flaps for extra spray protection. With 40mm tyres there’s loads of mud space on my vagabond, they work for 2.1s as well but with less space leading to the occasional ‘buzz’ on rocky ground.

Neat :wink:

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 6:45pm
by nez
whoof wrote:
foxyrider wrote:
Greystoke wrote:I hear a lot of "I wouldn't be seen dead on a bike with mudguards"....leave them to it.
My bikes have decent full mudguards


Wipes the smirk off their face when my rattly, old mudguard adorned machine passes their carbon toys and leaves them for dead :lol:

I overtook loads of people today. One person, clearly younger than me couldn't even ride up a hill and had to get off and walk half up. Clearly has no business even being out on a bike.

May you never get old

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 8:08pm
by londonbikerider
reohn2 wrote:
londonbikerider wrote:This thread had already shown that "holier than thou" attitude, so if your think that people like me -moving along in mud at the average of 10Mph- are not trying hard enough, then I'd respectfully leave your to your opinions.
Which you seem to back up so hard that "people get cold because they didn't have mudguards".

People like me, the ones not trying hard enough but simply enjoying their ride, try to avoid more complications and things that can break ("what's not there is not going to break").

FWIW,you can do exactly as you please I couldn't give a monkeys.
The thread is about mudguards,I posted on the thread about mudguards and why they're a very good idea on bikes in the UK climate and particularly when riding off road.
No need to get all upset about it if you don't like mudguards or don't see a need for them suit yourself it's a free country,but don't complain about someone who posts about mudguards on a thread about mudguards or get all woolly.


Thank you for making easier to spot the one who's actually got his knickers in a twist.
If that's the side effects, then I shall never fit them ;-)

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 9:06pm
by PH
Who knew mudguards were such a controversial subject :lol:

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 9:22pm
by reohn2
londonbikerider wrote:Thank you for making easier to spot the one who's actually got his knickers in a twist.
If that's the side effects, then I shall never fit them ;-)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Mudguards

Posted: 11 May 2020, 9:29pm
by reohn2
PH wrote:Who knew mudguards were such a controversial subject :lol:

You wouldn't think but it seems to touch some peoples nerve ends :shock: :lol: