Bsteel wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 12:49pm
Thinking about this I was looking at solutions not reliant on cards or phones such as a QR code on a dog tag or bracelet. The idea appeals as like the phone you can keep the on-line information up to date. However, I'm not sure I'd want to trust personal information to a random start-up company with a sticker printer and a website. Has anyone any experience of these products or companies ?
While you can get dogtags and similar emergency info things made quite easily - for example: https://www.icetags.co.uk/ - it doesn't need to be that complicated. Mine is a piece of paper the size of a credit card, laminated. Knocked it up in 5 mins in Word, printed it off. If any details change (like next of kin phone number etc), I can do another table in a couple of minutes and reprint.
It lives in the phone case I always have with me when I go riding. At some point, if I end up in a morgue with people going through my pockets, it'll be found. Ambulance crews are trained to look for meditags (the bracelet things containing emergency medical info like "has a pacemaker" or "allergic to penicillin" but they're usually too busy trying to save lives to look much further than that or decipher tattoos.
Jdsk wrote: ↑9 Jun 2022, 7:58pm
I'd encourage everyone to check what information they're carrying and what they're not. I'd include any relevant medical details in that list.
Thinking about this I was looking at solutions not reliant on cards or phones such as a QR code on a dog tag or bracelet. The idea appeals as like the phone you can keep the on-line information up to date. However, I'm not sure I'd want to trust personal information to a random start-up company with a sticker printer and a website. Has anyone any experience of these products or companies ?
If anyone wants this to work outside England they should be aware that the NHS number isn't a great identifier. There's a different system in each country of the UK, let alone abroad.
Cugel wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 1:29pm
Your National Insurance Number is not any kind of secret and serves as an identifier only in the same way as your equally well-known everyday name. "Secure information" of the sort used in security routines to check identity is of a different class from common or public names and identifiers. Identity checking information should be kept secret, as far as is practicable, from everything but the security checking facility itself.
Very true, my use of the term secure was a little sloppy. I'm just mindful of the possibility of ID theft. Hopefully my NI number and NHS number should be unique ID unlike a name.
But I'll dial down my paranoia a notch.
That's the product name I'd been struggling to remember.
Jdsk wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 2:03pm
If anyone wants this to work outside England they should be aware that the NHS number isn't a great identifier. There's a different system in each country of the UK, let alone abroad.
Jonathan
That's interesting I'd have guessed that the numbering would have pre-dated the NHS being split so would have continued from a central source.
Jdsk wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 2:03pm
If anyone wants this to work outside England they should be aware that the NHS number isn't a great identifier. There's a different system in each country of the UK, let alone abroad.
That's interesting I'd have guessed that the numbering would have pre-dated the NHS being split so would have continued from a central source.
England moved to a new system in the mid 1990s. The new IDs are ten characters, all numeric.
For the last 40 years I have been wearing an SOS Talisman necklace. As well as anything medical it has name and address, next of kin, passport number and other stuff too. All on shaped and folded piece of paper so is easily changed if/when circumstances change. For me it is for i.d purposes because so very often I have no i.d with me otherwise, and that was true 40 years ago as well. https://www.sostalisman.co.uk/ also available in jewellers such as Samuels.
tatanab wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 2:59pm
For the last 40 years I have been wearing an SOS Talisman necklace. As well as anything medical it has name and address, next of kin, passport number and other stuff too. All on shaped and folded piece of paper so is easily changed if/when circumstances change. For me it is for i.d purposes because so very often I have no i.d with me otherwise, and that was true 40 years ago as well. https://www.sostalisman.co.uk/ also available in jewellers such as Samuels.
That's a nice option.
rareposter wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 1:47pm
[While you can get dogtags and similar emergency info things made quite easily - for example: https://www.icetags.co.uk/ - it doesn't need to be that complicated. Mine is a piece of paper the size of a credit card, laminated. Knocked it up in 5 mins in Word, printed it off. If any details change (like next of kin phone number etc), I can do another table in a couple of minutes and reprint.
Simple elegant solution, ultimately, I'm looking for a wearable but it's a sensible place to start.
Cugel wrote: ↑9 Jun 2022, 6:56pmMoreover, truly inattentive drivers still won't see you, because they're not looking. They're phoning, screen-gawping or staring deeply into the eyes of their passenger as they hold an intense conversation about last night's soap opera doings.
Cugel wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 1:29pmfingerprint or iris pattern.....can be discovered and even emulated, once they become digits in a security checking system
Jdsk wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 2:03pm
If anyone wants this to work outside England they should be aware that the NHS number isn't a great identifier. There's a different system in each country of the UK, let alone abroad.
Jonathan
That's interesting I'd have guessed that the numbering would have pre-dated the NHS being split so would have continued from a central source.
tykeboy2003 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 10:36pm
I've never really worried about the potential for serious injury - or worse - whilst riding my bike. However, in 2012 I came off and broke my left shoulder blade (nobody to blame but myself and a traffic calming feature I didn't see) and then in January this year I was assaulted by a bush on a stormy night on my commute whilst doing about 20mph resulting in a cracked skull, separated collar bone and a few cracked ribs.
I console myself with the thought that it could have been worse, I could have been driving and smashed into a lamp post or something. At least I'm still here and still cycling....
Did you ever get your separated collarbone fixed ?
I have a workmate who's just done his falling off a mountain bike -- ie ruptured the ac and cc joints so his collarbone sits high at the outboard end.
The horrible thing about it is that the NHS are not bothered about fixing it since he has a good range of motion on his arm but this surely must compromise the strength in that shoulder.
Being a young fit guy I'd thought it would be wise to get that sorted but he doesn't seem that bothered -- even at my age I'd pay to have it fixed, but despite being young and in a well paid engineering roll he's not going to. ??
I'm both saddened by the NHS response and puzzled by his indifference.
Hi, just seen your post as we were out of the country till monday. The separated collarbone is still separated. I don't suffer any pain or have restricted movement so it's really only cosmetic. They said at the hospital that if I wanted an operation to fix it I'd have to go private.
I was a couple of months short of my 64th birthday when I had my bump so I guess the NHS attitude to the injury is probably justified, I would think younger people than me would have a similar experience to me.
tykeboy2003 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 10:36pm
I've never really worried about the potential for serious injury - or worse - whilst riding my bike. However, in 2012 I came off and broke my left shoulder blade (nobody to blame but myself and a traffic calming feature I didn't see) and then in January this year I was assaulted by a bush on a stormy night on my commute whilst doing about 20mph resulting in a cracked skull, separated collar bone and a few cracked ribs.
I console myself with the thought that it could have been worse, I could have been driving and smashed into a lamp post or something. At least I'm still here and still cycling....
Did you ever get your separated collarbone fixed ?
I have a workmate who's just done his falling off a mountain bike -- ie ruptured the ac and cc joints so his collarbone sits high at the outboard end.
The horrible thing about it is that the NHS are not bothered about fixing it since he has a good range of motion on his arm but this surely must compromise the strength in that shoulder.
Being a young fit guy I'd thought it would be wise to get that sorted but he doesn't seem that bothered -- even at my age I'd pay to have it fixed, but despite being young and in a well paid engineering roll he's not going to. ??
I'm both saddened by the NHS response and puzzled by his indifference.
Hi, just seen your post as we were out of the country till monday. The separated collarbone is still separated. I don't suffer any pain or have restricted movement so it's really only cosmetic. They said at the hospital that if I wanted an operation to fix it I'd have to go private.
I was a couple of months short of my 64th birthday when I had my bump so I guess the NHS attitude to the injury is probably justified, I would think younger people than me would have a similar experience to me.
Thanks for the reply. It does seem like if you get hurt there's no course of remedy offered unless you go private.
I try to mitigate the risks as best I can and I'm thankful I needed no surgery after my off last year ( apart from an anesthetic line in my back for pain relief (and keeping the muscles pulling ribs out of alignment each time they went into spasm ) for about 5 days -- broken bits healed naturally )
I wonder if there's any type of accident insurance that'll pay for treatment beyond just surviving the injury.
Cowsham wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 8:06pm
Thanks for the reply. It does seem like if you get hurt there's no course of remedy offered unless you go private.
I try to mitigate the risks as best I can and I'm thankful I needed no surgery after my off last year ( apart from an anesthetic line in my back for pain relief (and keeping the muscles pulling ribs out of alignment each time they went into spasm ) for about 5 days -- broken bits healed naturally )
I wonder if there's any type of accident insurance that'll pay for treatment beyond just surviving the injury.
I've just returned from an extended tour of Europe in our motorhome. My wife was ill at the beginning of May and we spent a day (5 hours) in the hospital in Granada where she was CAT scanned and diagnosed with an inner ear problem. Something which had remained undiagnosed in the UK despite hospitalisations going back 6 years in which time she never had a CAT scan. Another example of the way the NHS is being underfunded by the Government and being forced into outsourcing services at a higher cost than doing these things in-house. All part of the Tory master plan to bring in an insurance based system like in the USA.
I have used a OneLife ID silocone bracelet for years. https://onelifeid.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwqa ... 24QAvD_BwE
I started back in my mountain biking days.The front of my tag has my name,DOB 2 emergency contacts and Penicillin allergy.There is also a 4-digit pin to my OneLife ID profile with all my medical history/meds etc.Some of the newer ones have a barcode so the Paramedic can just scan it.I also have a sticker on either side of my helmet stating I carry a OneLife ID.
It won't bother me if I'm dead but at least they'll know who to contact
