Breaking International Law

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And another plea for negotiations from Ahern:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-talks

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"Steve Baker urges DUP to 'choke down' and return to Stormont":`
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63372058

"He joined calls for the DUP to return to Stormont's ruling executive before the deadline at 00:01 BST on Friday."

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Deadline passed. Presumably new elections within 12 weeks.

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"What Do Voters In Northern Ireland Think About The Protocol On Ireland/Northern Ireland?"
https://www.qub.ac.uk/sites/post-brexit ... perature6/

Lots of detail. Recommended.

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The UUP has called for triggering of Article 16:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 15613.html

And the Secretary of State this morning:
“I can now confirm that no Assembly election will take place in December, or ahead of the festive season. Current legislation requires me to name a date for an election to take place within 12 weeks of 28 October and next week, I will make a statement in Parliament to lay out my next steps."
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/secr ... n-election

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"NI Protocol talks: Breakthrough or false dawn?":
https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... akthrough/

Excellent summary of what might be progress.

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Supreme Court: NIP not unlawful.
https://www.supremecourt.uk/press-summa ... -0093.html

And some very positive mood music from the negotiations over what happens at the border.

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I think this appeal should shed a light on the deep feelings held by some about the position of NI within the UK.
As many others have pointed out for trade purposes NI is in a very advantageous position but that's not the uppermost consideration in appealing against the protocol.
I think this is true for others who also wanted to leave the EU. The cost financially was less important than the vision of total independence from the EU.
Before anyone starts to point out the error in their thinking the reality, let me say I understand that but since 2016 I've tried hard to find one factor that swayed people's vote.
I don't hold their views but each had their reasons for voting as they did.

If we can get rid of the loony lot running the country then maybe we can be pragmatic enough to agree to some EU rules whilst still enable us to say we govern ourselves.
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francovendee wrote: 9 Feb 2023, 9:04am ...
I think this appeal should shed a light on the deep feelings held by some about the position of NI within the UK.
As many others have pointed out for trade purposes NI is in a very advantageous position but that's not the uppermost consideration in appealing against the protocol.
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I agree.

The weirdness of the situation is illustrated by HMG resisting this appeal while legislating to overturn parts of the Protocol.

Excellent explainer of what just happened, and how it will affect what happens next:
"Maybe we Like the Misery: The Culmination of the Northern Ireland Protocol Litigation":
http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2023/ ... on-of.html

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Conservative three-line whip next Monday.

It's hard to see how it will be different this time round...

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... involving the monarch at this stage definitely counts.

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DUP:
"The Windsor Framework while undoubtedly representing significant progress across a number of areas does not deal with some of the fundamental problems at the heart of our current difficulties."
https://mydup.com/news/sir-jeffrey-give ... g-us-visit

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Clintons and Biden will visit Ireland for the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement.

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Jdsk wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 7:52pm DUP:
"The Windsor Framework while undoubtedly representing significant progress across a number of areas does not deal with some of the fundamental problems at the heart of our current difficulties."
https://mydup.com/news/sir-jeffrey-give ... g-us-visit
And they'll vote against this week:
https://mydup.com/news/dup-statement-ah ... -framework

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Jdsk wrote: 4 Nov 2022, 8:28am The UUP has called for triggering of Article 16:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 15613.html
Have they read article 16 yet?
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