Oldjohnw wrote:Looks like it will be illegal to cross the border from midnight. Never thought that was about to happen.
Except for essential travel. Here in D&G and the Borders there is every indication we will move down into level one next week. It makes a lot of sense that we don’t travel to higher risk areas. That’s central Scotland and England. You and I might well realise that the risk in your rural area is as low as ours over the border. The tier system abandoned in England and consequently you’re now all tarred with the same brush. Unclean stay away I was in Moffat this morning and the place is really quiet. Three caravans on the camp site as I suspect they won’t take any bookings from England and only from regions in Scotland on same tier. In the hardware shop the guy was saying it’s been his quietest week in six years.
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Oldjohnw wrote:Looks like it will be illegal to cross the border from midnight. Never thought that was about to happen.
Except for essential travel. Here in D&G and the Borders there is every indication we will move down into level one next week. It makes a lot of sense that we don’t travel to higher risk areas. That’s central Scotland and England. You and I might well realise that the risk in your rural area is as low as ours over the border. The tier system abandoned in England and consequently you’re now all tarred with the same brush. Unclean stay away I was in Moffat this morning and the place is really quiet. Three caravans on the camp site as I suspect they won’t take any bookings from England and only from regions in Scotland on same tier. In the hardware shop the guy was saying it’s been his quietest week in six years.
My son, south of us in very rural S Lanarkshire, is in L4.
My son, south of us in very rural S Lanarkshire, is in L4.
Yes he will have moved up one. Health board regions are a blunt tool and I wonder using post towns might be a more reflective tool. If we were animals we would have a holding number and be classed as clean or dirty
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I still can't believe the government hasn't caught on that most of this r number increase is coming from schools.
Surely it makes complete sense that children are mixing from many other households and bringing the virus home under the radar. Most won't even know they have it so won't even get tested hence the schools seem to be given the green light.
We took our lad out again a couple of weeks ago ( he's doing OK with the online learning which we help him with ) just before the teacher went down with a dose. Hospitality has been closed for a while now and the numbers here are still dramatically on the rise here.
Our lad told us there's no social distancing and anyone wearing a mask is ostracized or bullied - ( he wears one all day ) ( pupils not obliged to wear one in school though I think the teachers have to ) the others in his class will climb over him to get to another pupil and it's causing him so much anxiety with the fear he'll take it home to one of us or worse his granny that he finds it impossible to learn anything
There is now covid bullying perpetrated by some cruel kids, how many of them will regret bringing it home to their elderly grandparents in 10 years time when they're old enough to realize what they've done?
This situation is a bit mad in my opinion. Let's see who's right.
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I know about younger children being less susceptible to getting enough viral load to show symptoms but I'm not talking about very young children I'm talking about secondary schools but I know there's a strong possibility our lad will not have a problem with it but his chance of unknowingly transmitting the virus is much higher he knows that too because at the start of the pandemic he would have been considered highly vulnerable since he's asthmatic and almost died last year with an H1N1 type flu.
Now because we know a lot more about the virus that opinion has changed and the consultant recommended he go back to school so we sent him on the premise that the school had promised SD measures to help stop the spread but that couldn't be policed and I'm pretty sure it's the same in most schools.
I still can't believe the government hasn't caught on that most of this r number increase is coming from schools.
Of course they have... however the political ramifications of shutting down schools again are uncomfortable enough to make it very unlikely. While they can hang on to the plausible lie that "young people are relatively safe", they will not shut schools again - too much to lose, amongst which are parents having to quit work to look after the children at home, consequent income loss adding to already serious levels of poverty and colossal time-bomb in lost educational progress / exam results, not to mention emerging crisis of teachers, especially ht.s, ready to quit, and already, thousands of children truant under guise of self-isolation, reluctant to return. They will do whatever they can to keep schools open this time, I think.
S
(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
I still can't believe the government hasn't caught on that most of this r number increase is coming from schools.
Of course they have... however the political ramifications of shutting down schools again are uncomfortable enough to make it very unlikely. While they can hang on to the plausible lie that "young people are relatively safe", they will not shut schools again - too much to lose, amongst which are parents having to quit work to look after the children at home, consequent income loss adding to already serious levels of poverty and colossal time-bomb in lost educational progress / exam results, not to mention emerging crisis of teachers, especially ht.s, ready to quit, and already, thousands of children truant under guise of self-isolation, reluctant to return. They will do whatever they can to keep schools open this time, I think.
We are to open up for a week after the shut down ie it's OK for a driving instructor to have a pupil in the car with them this week and then off for another two after that ... ??? Wanes to stay at school --- You can't fix stupid.
Except for a few weeks in March & April, schools have been open in Norway.
They have taken measures to reduce risk, however, and critically, classes are much smaller and classrooms bigger in Norway. And many fewer classes are crammed into old buildings with poor ventilation.
Littlest is 11 & his class is 21 kids. They have almost twice as much space as any of the classrooms in Mini V's school in Essex had. They've set the desks all 1+ metres apart, put the ventilation system on the highest circulation, and open every other window. In addition, they have minimised contact with other classes. Littlest in in the classroom only two days each week. They do school from home on Mondays, away from the school (out in the forest, park, or elsewhere) on Tuesdays, in the classroom on Wednesdays & Fridays, and in the health & food kitchen on Thursdays. The kitchen is professionally steam-cleaned each night (the kids used to clean it; it was part of their lessons). The classes in the neighbouring rooms, do the opposite. They are in their classrooms on Monday & Tuesday. One is in the kitchen on Wednesday & the other on Friday, and they have either home school, or are outdoors on the other days that Littlest in the classroom. They also talk every day about hygiene and social distancing.
Mini V is 14, and her school has taken a different approach. They are arranged in cohorts of 5 or 6 kids, physically separated, and are supposed to avoid contact with the other cohorts. Teachers have contact with / responsibility for only two cohorts, and the teachers that teach a subject, like languages, are doing it remotely, with support from the cohort teacher. They, too are meant to social distance. They generally have better hygiene, but less inclination to follow rules, which is probably why the cohorts; it limits how many kids any one of them can infect.
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.” ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Tempting tho' it is to apply common-sense theories when trying to understand why & how the little bug transmits, the fact is, nobody really understands yet... see here for the "Bishopsworth Enigma" (a couple of miles way from me)...
S
(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
I still can't believe the government hasn't caught on that most of this r number increase is coming from schools.
Of course they have... however the political ramifications of shutting down schools again are uncomfortable enough to make it very unlikely. While they can hang on to the plausible lie that "young people are relatively safe", they will not shut schools again - too much to lose, amongst which are parents having to quit work to look after the children at home, consequent income loss adding to already serious levels of poverty and colossal time-bomb in lost educational progress / exam results, not to mention emerging crisis of teachers, especially ht.s, ready to quit, and already, thousands of children truant under guise of self-isolation, reluctant to return. They will do whatever they can to keep schools open this time, I think.
Close em down to collection and delivery only! Leave only specialists and mini markets open.
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