Boris's Brain is missing

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roubaixtuesday
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Jdsk wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 9:26am "In only a couple of hours I will be in Balmoral to see Her Majesty the Queen and the torch will finally be passed to a new Conservative leader.
"The battle will be handed over in what has unexpectedly turned out to be a relay race.
"They changed the rules halfway through, but never mind that now."


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Jonathan
Utterly despicable character.

Sacked as a journalist for dishonesty.
Sacked as a shadow minister for dishonesty.
Sacked as prime minister for dishonesty by his own government ministers, 60 of whom resigned, no longer prepared to repeat his lies.

Still unable to accept his own responsibility, now blames others for "changing the rules"

Charlatan, incompetent, liar, narcissist. Worst uk prime minister in history by some distance.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 9:40am
Jdsk wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 9:26am "In only a couple of hours I will be in Balmoral to see Her Majesty the Queen and the torch will finally be passed to a new Conservative leader.
"The battle will be handed over in what has unexpectedly turned out to be a relay race.
"They changed the rules halfway through, but never mind that now."


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Jonathan
Utterly despicable character.

Sacked as a journalist for dishonesty.
Sacked as a shadow minister for dishonesty.
Sacked as prime minister for dishonesty by his own government ministers, 60 of whom resigned, no longer prepared to repeat his lies.

Still unable to accept his own responsibility, now blames others for "changing the rules"

Charlatan, incompetent, liar, narcissist. Worst uk prime minister in history by some distance.
Spot on!
He doesn't give a monkey's for anything or anyone,and has been sideswiped by his own sort to make way for another of similar stamp.
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Two private jets (plus helicopters) to fly two people the length of the country so as each can shake the hand of a 96 year old woman in a castle ....

could they not of shared or even better done a video link.
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Pebble wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 9:57am Two private jets (plus helicopters) to fly two people the length of the country so as each can shake the hand of a 96 year old woman in a castle ....

could they not of shared or even better done a video link.
Yes:
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francovendee wrote: 5 Sep 2022, 8:58am Whilst I'm pleased to see the back of Boris what he leaves behind will endure for much longer.
The genie is out of the bottle and others like him will have seen how far the rules can be bent/broken without any damage to their support from the Tory party. I see more corruption dressed up as being for the benefit of the country.
Let's see who benefits most from rumoured help with energy bills, customers or the energy companies.
What seems to be being proposed for energy bills is a government guarantee for bank loans to companies, to be paid back in future bills. The loans to be used to cap the cost per unit of energy.

Whilst this is much better than previous policy of allowing the poor to die from cold (Truss's "no handouts" pitch to the membership), it has some significant problems:

(1) It's an energy poll tax. The poorest, who pay a much larger proportion of their income on energy, will have an additional tax imposed on them for decades to come. The richest, with the largest bills, get the most short term help; we're subsidising Zahawi's heating bill for his stables.

(2) The banks who administer the scheme will get a cut. So it's more expensive than just giving the money from the govt.

(3) The energy companies, who are insolvent without this (as their customers cannot pay their bills), pay nothing for it. When we bailed out the banks, we took partial or complete ownership as recompense. Here, we're baling out the energy companies and their shareholders without any payback.

So (1) unfair, (2) expensive and (2), (3) crony capitalism.

But at least better than the poor freezing to death.
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reohn2
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Pebble wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 9:57am Two private jets (plus helicopters) to fly two people the length of the country so as each can shake the hand of a 96 year old woman in a castle ....

could they not of shared or even better done a video link.
It goes to show just how bad a state and out of touch the UK political monarchy system has become,at a time when ordinary people can't afford to live!
Next they'll be saying "let them eat cake"
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 10:01am .......So (1) unfair, (2) expensive and (2), (3) crony capitalism.
Did we expect anything else from the Tories?
But at least better than the poor freezing to death.
There is that but as you stated it would be much simpler to gibpve the money directly from goveenment,but these are the Tories and their mantra if "if it doesn't make a profit for our friends it isn't worth doing" Capitalism and the "free market economy" in all it's nakedness!
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In an idle thought earlier ................

Boris sees HMQ and hands in his resignation.
Some time later, Truss sees HMQ and is asked to become PM and form a government.

Now, just say the Boris has resigned, and Truss drops down dead BEFORE she sees HMQ.
What happens then?
No PM and no government! :lol:
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Jdsk
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Mick F wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 10:43amBoris sees HMQ and hands in his resignation.
Some time later, Truss sees HMQ and is asked to become PM and form a government.

Now, just say the Boris has resigned, and Truss drops down dead BEFORE she sees HMQ.
What happens then?
No PM and no government!
The Head of State then appoints someone else to be Prime Minister. As usual after taking advice that is kept secret from the people.

There is currently someone with the title of Deputy Prime Minister, but it doesn't come with any known constitutional powers or responsibilities. And sometimes there isn't one.

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PS:

But the Tom Clancy version of course rapidly escalates to include the use of nuclear weapons in the interim.

Here's what we know about authorisation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_w ... ns_control

That includes deputisation.

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Oh, and brace yourself for Johnson's incoming resignation peerages later.

Sacked for dishonesty then allowed to stay and then confer honors on others for favours rendered.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 10:01am
francovendee wrote: 5 Sep 2022, 8:58am Whilst I'm pleased to see the back of Boris what he leaves behind will endure for much longer.
The genie is out of the bottle and others like him will have seen how far the rules can be bent/broken without any damage to their support from the Tory party. I see more corruption dressed up as being for the benefit of the country.
Let's see who benefits most from rumoured help with energy bills, customers or the energy companies.
What seems to be being proposed for energy bills is a government guarantee for bank loans to companies, to be paid back in future bills. The loans to be used to cap the cost per unit of energy.

Whilst this is much better than previous policy of allowing the poor to die from cold (Truss's "no handouts" pitch to the membership), it has some significant problems:

(1) It's an energy poll tax. The poorest, who pay a much larger proportion of their income on energy, will have an additional tax imposed on them for decades to come. The richest, with the largest bills, get the most short term help; we're subsidising Zahawi's heating bill for his stables.

(2) The banks who administer the scheme will get a cut. So it's more expensive than just giving the money from the govt.

(3) The energy companies, who are insolvent without this (as their customers cannot pay their bills), pay nothing for it. When we bailed out the banks, we took partial or complete ownership as recompense. Here, we're baling out the energy companies and their shareholders without any payback.

So (1) unfair, (2) expensive and (2), (3) crony capitalism.

But at least better than the poor freezing to death.
It's also kicking the can down the road for the next administration to struggle with, and another can of many kicked cans that this Brexit-Tory Cabal will dodge by losing the next election, plus they will then blame the next administration (Labour) for all the problems that Boris and Co caused in the first place.
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Jdsk wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 10:48am
Mick F wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 10:43amBoris sees HMQ and hands in his resignation.
Some time later, Truss sees HMQ and is asked to become PM and form a government.

Now, just say the Boris has resigned, and Truss drops down dead BEFORE she sees HMQ.
What happens then?
No PM and no government!
The Head of State then appoints someone else to be Prime Minister. As usual after taking advice that is kept secret from the people.

There is currently someone with the title of Deputy Prime Minister, but it doesn't come with any known constitutional powers or responsibilities. And sometimes there isn't one.
There's no Prime Minister now!

Jonathan

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Incumbent Vacant explains Truss very well.
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Debs wrote: 6 Sep 2022, 11:26am It's also kicking the can down the road for the next administration to struggle with, and another can of many kicked cans that this Brexit-Tory Cabal will dodge by losing the next election, plus they will then blame the next administration (Labour) for all the problems that Boris and Co caused in the first place.
The Tory party has always done this. They get elected on the basis they are good with the economy. They are -evidently and obviously-not. Thatcher and her acolytes privatised everything they could - billions paid in dividends have been diverted from the public coffers starving the privatised industries of investment. The rail subsidies paid out are now greater (not including the effects of the Covid pandemic) than the total cost of running BR when in public hands. And it goes on. The last chancellor to run a surplus was Roy Jenkins - a Labour chancellor. Tory policies since 2010 have increased the speed of the decline of The UK. If Truss means what she says (she does not have a good record in this respect) the UK economy will be driven off a cliff. Our borrowing now stand at 100% of GDP, and she is proposing more...........
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