Once stamped, the form, which costs €30 (£26) and requires supporting documents such as proof of address, income and right of residence, must then be forwarded to the guest so they can show it at the border, where officials are entitled to ask for it.
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It is not clear to what extent the requirements will be enforced for post-Brexit British travellers.
Some French immigration lawyers have suggested a simple letter of invitation, rather than an official attestation, may be sufficient for UK nationals visiting friends and family since formal certificates are in theory only required for travellers from countries needing a Schengen visa.
However, accounts of mistreatment of EU citizens in the UK suggest the chance of tougher border checks in the future cannot be excluded and the British government has advised travellers, including those staying with friends or family, to err on the side of caution.
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Whilst there are rules, the article has a lot of "may be" and from when I lived in France I quickly learnt that there are millions of rules and regulations and the main thing the French do is ignore them (makes you wonder if they have all those rules so the French can enjoy ignoring them).
But the UK's negotiating attitude and treatment of EU citizens at the border does make one wonder if at best we are more likely to come across officious border staff who decide to enforce the letter for visiting UK citizens.
EU citizens are being sent to immigration removal centres and held in airport detention rooms as the UK government’s “hostile environment” policy falls on them after Brexit, according to campaigners and travellers interviewed by the Guardian.
When they are allowed to enter the UK under the rules!
Thus far it is fortunately all "maybe", but France has a long tradition of the compulsory registration of travellers. Under EU rules this had to be relaxed, and did indeed become even more relaxed in practice. The Johnson government's recent behaviour has not encouraged EU countries to adopt a relaxed posture, although xenophobia and racism have been a long tradition with UK immigration officials, as, sadly, in many other countries.
"A "road to success" for future British cycling stars risks being "wiped out" because of Brexit and the Covid-19 pandemic, claim a host of elite names.
"A group of 12 riders, including Tour de France winners Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas, has written to the UK government to raise their concerns.
"They believe post-Brexit rules limiting how much time riders can spend in Europe will hinder development." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/57615391
On the cyclist and other working visas this government is too idealistic to change it at the moment as it conflicts with their purist Brexit but I think that eventually something will happen for sportspeople and entertainers etc. Sadly that suggests there will be a gap and unquestionably some young professionals and potential professionals will lose out due to that.
Psamathe wrote: ↑20 May 2021, 11:02am
Whilst there are rules, the article has a lot of "may be" and from when I lived in France I quickly learnt that there are millions of rules and regulations and the main thing the French do is ignore them (makes you wonder if they have all those rules so the French can enjoy ignoring them).
sounds familiar
I well remember going to italy in the early 80s to stay with an italian family for ten days or so.
Conscientious me had read in some official guide that you were supposed to register with the authorities within a couple of days of arrival or something.
So trotted off to the mega carabinieri HQ to find a lot of bemused folk.
They may have taken my details down (can't remember) to humour me before going back to their office gossip.
Sweep wrote: ↑4 Jul 2021, 5:35pmI well remember going to italy in the early 80s to stay with an italian family for ten days or so.
Conscientious me had read in some official guide that you were supposed to register with the authorities within a couple of days of arrival or something.
It was pretty common in a lot of countries.
The process in France for hotels etc is recorded in The Day of the Jackal and the original film. I wonder if there's something similar for Italy in Ripley.
France does have many laws and rules, even the French are unaware of some of them.
They're not normally enforced unless something happens that brings in the authority.
A friend built and sold a house here. He always said it's easier here as there were no building inspectors checking to see the work has been carried out properly. He hadn't and when the purchaser went to law he lost the case and had a legal bill that wiped him out financially.
albal1 wrote:EU visa to commence 2022. §7 valid for 3 years. This on top of the 90 day rule. To all uk residents.
Have you got a source, please?
Presumably talking about ETIAS as mentioned above.
Ah, visas. Pages of discussions await us. Visa, visa free, visa exempt, visa on arrival, tourist card, etc, etc. A pedants charter. This used to be a happy hunting ground for one such on the old Lonely Planet forum.
"Today, the rules making the future European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) interoperable with other EU information systems enter into force. This is an important step towards the entry into operation of ETIAS by the end of 2022." https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/e ... sion-says/
willem jongman wrote: ↑3 Aug 2021, 2:33pm
So a lot cheaper than the US ESTA system.
But nowhere near as good as the system we had before the madness of brexit: it was like moving from Kent to Sussex, couldn't possibly have been any simpler.
I could not agree more. Even so, since the UK was not in the Schengen zone, getting into the UK was always a bit harder. You had to bring your passport and wait in line, sometimes for quite a while. I have never seen a welcoming smile on the face of these immigration officers.
willem jongman wrote: ↑3 Aug 2021, 2:33pm
So a lot cheaper than the US ESTA system.
But nowhere near as good as the system we had before the madness of brexit: it was like moving from Kent to Sussex, couldn't possibly have been any simpler.
I can't say that I blame France and any EU countries for being hostile to brits. We've messed with their economies, made them employ 100's of customs officials and our wonderful government and press have said some awful xenophobic things about them. If I was a French immigration officer I would most likely be hostile to a brit passing my door.
You reap what you sow.
