Post-Brexit - buying bike parts abroad . . (incl. Rose/DutchBikeParts)

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Sweep wrote: 5 Jan 2022, 6:28pm
SporranMcDonald wrote: 5 Jan 2022, 4:33pm
Jdsk wrote: 5 Jan 2022, 9:20am Happy New Year?
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DPD are aware that a package exists for their delivery service. Nothing has moved as far as I can see. OTOH. probably the worst time of year to place an order.
New Year + Brexit + Covid . . . . . .
I think there's a slight apparent delay in stuff shifting as new years day saturday was followed by a sunday and then a monday that was a replacement UK holiday.
The new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...

That may be causing some delays too.
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st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 8:33amThe new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...

That may be causing some delays too.
Yes.

I don't know of any official statistics, but ciaran the euro courier describes what he sees and experiences:
https://twitter.com/donnyc1975

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st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 8:33am The new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...
That may be causing some delays too.
There's no new requirements for good sent from abroad, they've been in place since Jan 2021.
The new requirements are for goods imported.
I know it may look like semantics, but there's two separate sets of regulations, I linked to them in my post a few days ago.
viewtopic.php?p=1662723#p1662723
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Jdsk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 9:29am
st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 8:33amThe new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...

That may be causing some delays too.
Yes.

I don't know of any official statistics, but ciaran the euro courier describes what he sees and experiences:
https://twitter.com/donnyc1975
"Lorries Are Stuck At The UK Border After New Post-Brexit IT System Failure":
https://www.politicshome.com/news/artic ... lay-brexit

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PH wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 10:32am
st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 8:33am The new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...
That may be causing some delays too.
There's no new requirements for good sent from abroad, they've been in place since Jan 2021.
The new requirements are for goods imported.
I know it may look like semantics, but there's two separate sets of regulations, I linked to them in my post a few days ago.
viewtopic.php?p=1662723#p1662723
Which only makes a difference if a) trucks only contain consignments of imported goods or sent goods not a mix and b) if there are seperate customs facilities for each.
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st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 2:13pm
PH wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 10:32am
st599_uk wrote: 6 Jan 2022, 8:33am The new UK requirements for advance customs consignment notification went live on the 1st, new computer system, new staff, new paperwork...
That may be causing some delays too.
There's no new requirements for good sent from abroad, they've been in place since Jan 2021.
The new requirements are for goods imported.
I know it may look like semantics, but there's two separate sets of regulations, I linked to them in my post a few days ago.
viewtopic.php?p=1662723#p1662723
Which only makes a difference if a) trucks only contain consignments of imported goods or sent goods not a mix and b) if there are seperate customs facilities for each.
Yes, that's the reality, you don't usually get mixed cargo, the courier companies, DHL, UPS, Hermes... are using their own transport, or contractors, under the ACC system (Authorised Consignor or Consignee), such loads might get a random check, for contraband or stowaways, but they're not subject to cargo checks. many of these parcels to our shame will be flown (I used to work at East Midland Airport, more freight than passengers, people might be surprised by the volumes) this is also ACC (Or something like it).
Arriving by sea there are to a large extent separate facilities for each, those vehicles having their cargo physically checked (I think it's around 20%), will be directed to an Inland Border Facility (IBF), it isn't done at the port.
It is possible that the vehicle your package is in will be stuck in a queue with other vehicles, in which case it's possible you'll get it a day later than expected. I don't think it's very likely, the port authorities will be keen to get stuff that doesn't need any additional checks through the port ASAP and as such operations have been established for a year there is no need to delay them.

I don't want to sound like some Brexit apologist, moving goods was easier, better, cheaper when the UK was part of the EU, in both directions. But understanding where we are and what is and isn't going to work, is IMO more important than scoring political points.
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One of the issues that seems to be causing big problems with the documentation and causing delays is that some of the portals require you to be running Internet Explorer, a browser whose last major update was 7 years ago and which support for is expected to end this spring. Eg. http://ehmipeach.defra.gov.uk/

Better than the withdrawal agreement which required Netscape Navigator 4 and a known breached security protocol to share personal info between the UK and EU.
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st599_uk wrote: 7 Jan 2022, 9:51am One of the issues that seems to be causing big problems with the documentation and causing delays is that some of the portals require you to be running Internet Explorer, .....
How about Firefox? It's good to escape from the Microsoft stranglehold. Sorry, thread drift.
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Chris Jeggo wrote: 7 Jan 2022, 4:19pm
st599_uk wrote: 7 Jan 2022, 9:51am One of the issues that seems to be causing big problems with the documentation and causing delays is that some of the portals require you to be running Internet Explorer, .....
How about Firefox? It's good to escape from the Microsoft stranglehold. Sorry, thread drift.
Thread drift indeed, I'm at a loss to understand why a difficulty in importing horticultural products has anything to do with "Post-Brexit - buying bike parts abroad . . (incl. Rose/DutchBikeParts)"
Seems to me that's a more general Brexit point that belongs somewhere other than the Cycling > Does anyone know...? section of the forum.
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Bikester order on 30 Dec 21.
Delivered on 7 Jan 21.

Overall - quite impressive, bearing in mind the potential obstacles = Holidays + Covid + Brexit

Less impressive DPD :
- Constipation in their customer information system . Nothing to show any movement until the actual delivery day : then a whole batch in one blob.
- The delivery chap handed me a partially crushed cardboard box with a wet footprint clearly visible at the point of crushing. Luckily the vulnerable parts of the contents were not damaged.
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Just in case it might help others, I ordered from Bikester (not bike stuff, but a wetsuit) on 6th Jan and received on 12th Jan. Very impressed. Was under the £135 ceiling and (thanks to whoever posted it earlier on this thread) a return label all pre-printed was enclosed in the shipment, not needed on this occasion, but would have been an easy return (to a UK address). Was warned delivery could be delayed 3-5 business days but I think that's excellent service. DPD delivery tracker was a bit useless (again knew that from this thread) but got a delivery notice the day before with a time slot. Excellent. Mirrors Sporran's experience.
Now, need to investigate the UK to EU thing as a mate in Spain needs a part ... another story.
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There have been a few comments on the DPD delivery tracker when ordering from Bikester, but I wonder if what's happening is that Bikester ship to a UK depot (using some other service), then ship from there within the UK using DPD? I believe some companies do that to allow them to process VAT and duty (Bikester say the buyer never has any VAT or fees to pay, even over £135). That would explain why DPD don't have any tracking until the day before - they don't have the package until then. Just a thought...
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I thought Bikester were operating a UK warehouse, so everything will be shipped from within UK?
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 12 Jan 2022, 9:06pm I thought Bikester were operating a UK warehouse, so everything will be shipped from within UK?
I'd be surprised if that were the case, it would involve them having duplicate stock in the UK. I suspect it's similar to what gcogger describes, using an Import Agent, that agent may well be the courier company, and the goods won't need to be physically handled at the point they change from EU goods to UK goods.
It sounds complicated and if you were sending a few parcels it probably is, but if you're sending hundreds, or better still leaving it to someone sending thousands, then it will be a seamless transaction handled by software and the accounts dept.
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On the tracker one of the early entries is Wendlingen (DE) ...
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