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Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 4:38pm
by Cyril Haearn
Jdsk wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:I was stopped by the cops once, because I seemed to be driving slowly.

Cyril Haearn wrote:I slowed down, turned off, then I perceived a police vehicle following me. It followed me home. An officer hopped out and asked whether I had been drinking.

So did they stop you, or had you already stopped at home?
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LEAVE ME ALONE!
I am ignoring your posts. I require you to ignore mine

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 4:40pm
by Cyril Haearn
Ride-sleep-repeat wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:Glad to describe the incident, I remember it well. December 1993
Had been on a long train trip, driving home late from the station. At the junction shortly before home I espied in my mirror a citroen bx following too close
I slowed down, turned off, then I perceived a police vehicle following me. It followed me home. An officer hopped out and asked whether I had been drinking. I explained that I had given up alcohol several years before. I was not breathalysed, no charges were brought
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As for motor crime, you may observe for yourself as described above


So you weren't actually stopped they spoke to you when you stopped at home.
You aren't willing to supply any evidence regarding your accusations about all motorists so we should take it once again that you have non other than your opinion?
I seem to recall a recent,now disappeared,thread resurrection where you not only called a lady motorist a derogatory name but you also admitted to lying about losing a family member in an road accident just so you could win the argument with her?
A pattern is developing here.I'm not sure you can be taken seriously.

No need for 'evidence' (links?), just observe for yourself

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 5:07pm
by Cyril Haearn
Mick F wrote::lol:

Basically, someone broke the law, but there was insufficient evidence and no witnesses, so he got off with it.
............ or he just pretended to break the law and some people believed him.

I wonder, had there been average speed cameras back then, at Torpoint and at Lesmahagow, had you averaged 71 mph, would that count as a single offence? :?

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 5:38pm
by Oldjohnw
Cyril Haearn wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:A discussion which, once again, has become pointless.i
I should have learnt by now!

Please, have you taken a few minutes to observe traffic at a STOP sign, as I have suggested before?
If not, please do so before casting nasturtiums :wink:

I think 'the majority [50%+] routinely break the law' is a suitable phrase and is unfortunately true

Very much looking forward to reading of your observations


I have not made the claim so I will not be doing any such thing. You made the claim so should provide the evidence. I doubt a few minutes at a single stop sign would prove a thing.

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 5:46pm
by Mick F
I used to leave at 9ish at night and drive to Ibrox, getting there at 3ish or 4ish.
Once or twice, I did the drive non-stop.
500miles from here to my digs at 90 Ibrox Terrace.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.85219 ... 384!8i8192
Seems like they've renumbered the houses since 1990/91

This is my Mini outside the house screenshot from my book, "Cars I have Known".
No, I didn't commute 500miles with it. We used hire cars then, and it was later that I drove our Peugeot 205(Lennie) car No11.
Screen Shot 2020-12-07 at 17.43.25.png

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 5:57pm
by Mick F
Grief! :shock:
There used to be a tower block opposite Ibrox Terrace.
Gone!!!!

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 6:24pm
by Ride-sleep-repeat
Oldjohnw wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:A discussion which, once again, has become pointless.i
I should have learnt by now!

Please, have you taken a few minutes to observe traffic at a STOP sign, as I have suggested before?
If not, please do so before casting nasturtiums :wink:

I think 'the majority [50%+] routinely break the law' is a suitable phrase and is unfortunately true

Very much looking forward to reading of your observations


I have not made the claim so I will not be doing any such thing. You made the claim so should provide the evidence. I doubt a few minutes at a single stop sign would prove a thing.

CH has no evidence hence his somewhat evasive replies.Searching through some older posts he seems to have form and does this quite often ie ignores questions he doesn't want to answer or changes the subject.
I wonder if he's a politician.

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 6:30pm
by Oldjohnw
I don't mind if he does or doesn't supply evidence. I do mind that without it he calls most motorists criminals. But without evidence it is meaningless, just prejudice.

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 6:57pm
by Cyril Haearn
The majority routinely break the law, I thought we had agreed on that, the majority are criminals/offenders

I have spent time observing traffic at Stop signs, one waits a while before seeing even a single one who can even read. The majority do not stop, they are presumably illiterate

I prefer to collect my own evidence than to rely on the internut

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 7:00pm
by Jdsk
Cyril Haearn wrote:The majority do not stop, are obviously illiterate...

Even if it were true that the majority don't stop that would not be a reason to conclude that they are illiterate.

Cyril Haearn wrote:I prefer to collect my own evidence than to rely on the internut

Basing either legislative or enforcement policy on individual anecdote probably won't work out too well in practice.

Jonathan

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 7:01pm
by Cyril Haearn
Jdsk wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:The majority do not stop, are obviously illiterate...

Even if it were true that the majority don't stop that would not be a reason to conclude that they are illiterate

LEAVE ME ALONE!

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 8:05pm
by ossie
Cyril Haearn wrote:
Jdsk wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:The majority do not stop, are obviously illiterate...

Even if it were true that the majority don't stop that would not be a reason to conclude that they are illiterate

LEAVE ME ALONE!


Look at instigating the ignore function...it might keep your blood pressure slightly lower :wink:

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 8:17pm
by Cyril Haearn
ossie wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:
Jdsdj wrote:Even if it were true that the majority don't stop that would not be a reason to conclude that they are illiterate

LEAVE ME ALONE!


Look at instigating the ignore function...it might keep your blood pressure slightly lower :wink:

I have, I ignore him but he does not ignore me, keeps quoting me despite being asked not to
Shame the internut is not a bit more like real life, where one can turn ones back on someone and pointedly ignore them :wink:

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 8:38pm
by DaveBeck
Cyril Haearn wrote:The majority routinely break the law, I thought we had agreed on that, the majority are criminals/offenders

I have spent time observing traffic at Stop signs, one waits a while before seeing even a single one who can even read. The majority do not stop, they are presumably illiterate

I prefer to collect my own evidence than to rely on the internut



Good grief!

I assume you mean the "Royal We" as I don't recall most of us agreeing any such thing?! I should stop flogging that particular horse if I were you, it's long since left the stables.

Re: "Record" End-to-End prosecution

Posted: 7 Dec 2020, 9:30pm
by Cyril Haearn
DaveBeck wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:The majority routinely break the law, I thought we had agreed on that, the majority are criminals/offenders

I have spent time observing traffic at Stop signs, one waits a while before seeing even a single one who can even read. The majority do not stop, they are presumably illiterate

I prefer to collect my own evidence than to rely on the internut



Good grief!

I assume you mean the "Royal We" as I don't recall most of us agreeing any such thing?! I should stop flogging that particular horse if I were you, it's long since left the stables.

Please to spend a few minutes observing traffic at a STOP sign and report on your observations
According to the police most 'accidents' are not accidents at all, hundreds of thousands of them a year

I use the phrase, 'the majority routinely break the law' which certainly reflects my observations