Who has said this?briansnail wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 7:40pm One trigger for her departure is the reluctance to do a fuller forensic investigation into "Partygate".
Do any of us know the reason beyond what the Mayor has said?
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Jonathan
Who has said this?briansnail wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 7:40pm One trigger for her departure is the reluctance to do a fuller forensic investigation into "Partygate".
I've not seen that reported. Do you have a source.briansnail wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 7:40pm One trigger for her departure is the reluctance to do a fuller forensic investigation into "Partygate".Her Boss is the Labour mayor.Just suppose it had been a Conservative London mayor. Might she have survived? This highlights the problem of mixing politics with functioning government officials.Oil and water.....
It was not a matter of her control. She was asked to come-up with a viable plan to address the many issues - something that should have been done anyway and some time ago. The problem was that her plan was seen as inadequate so it then quite reasonably becomes necessary to get somebody else in who can come-up with a plan because the many issues cannot be left unaddressed.briansnail wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 7:40pm ....
Much of her apparent deficiencies lie outside Cressida's control.One cannot be expected to take the heat for loose cannon who explode despite the best of precautionary measures.Its to easy to point fingers.Harder to point out what she should have done differently.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-60345334Home Office sources said they were "astounded" that Mr Khan's previous comment that Dame Cressida had "days and weeks" to sort out the Met turned into "less than 48 hours".
Dame Cressida is thought to have offered her resignation after declining to meet Mr Khan to discuss her plans for reforming the Met - but the BBC understands he did not inform Priti Patel about the meeting.
The Commissioner is accountable to the Mayor.Carlton green wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:31pm CD clearly did resign due to the actions of SK. See this video and BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60341675
Policing should be independent of politics.
The Commissioners position (irrespective of politics) is dependent on the support and confidence of the mayor of London. That's the gig with all these Mayorships throughout the UK. Once that is lost, or rescinded, then there's no option but to resign. Its what you voted for (if you voted tory in the previous election)Carlton green wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:31pm CD clearly did resign due to the actions of SK. See this video and BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60341675
Policing should be independent of politics.
She hasn't. She has said that she will.
She submitted her resignation so to my mind no "loss of office" or "constructive dismissal". She could go to an industrial tribunal(?) to get such a ruling but as things stand she resigned of her own free will.thirdcrank wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 2:32pm (Thinks) I wonder if she will get a mega pay out for loss of office and/or constructive dismissal.
All beyond my knowledge but I do seem to see a lot of reports involving megabucks when politicians oust appointed officials. (Rotten boroughs in Private Eye seems a good source for examples.)
That’s an interesting question that I’d meant to respond to earlier. Who are other Police Forces accountable to and who are the Courts accountable to? I don’t see that London should be a special case and I’m really not certain what particular value the Mayor adds.Jdsk wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:43pmThe Commissioner is accountable to the Mayor.Carlton green wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:31pm CD clearly did resign due to the actions of SK. See this video and BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60341675
Policing should be independent of politics.
To whom do you think that she should be accountable?
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Jonathan
Sticking to the police rather than the courts:Carlton green wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 7:27pmThat’s an interesting question that I’d meant to respond to earlier. Who are other Police Forces accountable to and who are the Courts accountable to? I don’t see that London should be a special case and I’m really not certain what particular value the Mayor adds.Jdsk wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:43pmThe Commissioner is accountable to the Mayor.Carlton green wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:31pm CD clearly did resign due to the actions of SK. See this video and BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60341675
Policing should be independent of politics.
To whom do you think that she should be accountable?
This is one of the first, if not the first signs I've seen across the several Cressida threads that anybody sees that change is going to be needed, but I think it will need to go a lot further than eg hiving off things like royal and diplomatic protection to the National Crime Agency.Jdsk wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 7:31pmSticking to the police rather than the courts:Carlton green wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 7:27pmThat’s an interesting question that I’d meant to respond to earlier. Who are other Police Forces accountable to and who are the Courts accountable to? I don’t see that London should be a special case and I’m really not certain what particular value the Mayor adds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enfor ... untability
The accountability of the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police is different from that anywhere else in England.
If the national and local responsibilities of the MPS were separated this would be much easier. (My bold)
Jonathan
Power in the UK is generally far too centralised. And the Home Secretary in particular has far too many powers with far too little accountability.Carlton green wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 7:44pm I honestly don’t see what value Mayors add with respect to Police Forces and believe that they should all be accountable to the Home Office (or similar if the power is devolved at home nation level) .
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk ... do/powers/