Foam sleeping mats

[PH]

I very strongly suspect that delamination happens when the mattresses have had overpressure from being left in the sun, or in a tent in the sun, that sort of thing.

It certainly won't help and in many cases may be a contributory factor, along with the users weight and anything else that increases pressure, using one as a trampoline would certainly be a bad idea. But as per my earlier post and having worked with this method of manufacture, I'm convinced it isn't an ideal application, which will be why they've been under development since. Taking care of your mat will of course lessen the likelihood, but your pinch of salt comment might lead someone to think that by doing so they could avoid the possibility and that is not accurate.
I've just ordered a button weld/cell type, not the Sea to Summit mentioned above, but an Exped at half the price, I'll see how that lasts.

[NickWi]

I've got one of these: https://www.nemoequipment.com/product/cosmo-3dA Okay it's not foam, it's not cheap and it's not exactly light weight either, but combined with one of these: https://www.nemoequipment.com/product/riff-mens/ the combination had given me the best nights sleeping I've ever had in a tent. Oh, and did I mention the down pillow: https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/ ... wn-pillow/

As the man said;

it goes like this: when you are young you have rubber bones and can sleep on the floor I did, then when you are older you think wait a minute I can afford stuff I'll buy a sleeping mat, then when you are promoted (or rob a bank it doesn't matter which) you can buy a posh insulated superlight jobbie and bingo you are dead comfy - until something happens to your million pound posh jobbie that then you realise you've got so soft that you can't sleep in the floor without one anymore!!

[djb]

I very strongly suspect that delamination happens when the mattresses have had overpressure from being left in the sun, or in a tent in the sun, that sort of thing.

It certainly won't help and in many cases may be a contributory factor, along with the users weight and anything else that increases pressure, using one as a trampoline would certainly be a bad idea. But as per my earlier post and having worked with this method of manufacture, I'm convinced it isn't an ideal application, which will be why they've been under development since. Taking care of your mat will of course lessen the likelihood, but your pinch of salt comment might lead someone to think that by doing so they could avoid the possibility and that is not accurate.
I've just ordered a button weld/cell type, not the Sea to Summit mentioned above, but an Exped at half the price, I'll see how that lasts.

I can only speak of my years using my neoair, and before "regular old" thermorests with lots of family use with kids, but yes any air inflated mat can have issues.
I hope our mats continue to function properly, but do have a patch kit always, so will touch wood a few times now. knock knock

[PH]

I can only speak of my years using...

Well yes, that's all any of us can do, relate our own experience. But that's anecdote not evidence, or I'd be telling people it's a 100% certainty that a mat will fail, which obviously it isn't.

[djb]

may all of you sleep really well on whatever you prefer to use, thats all that matters.

[TimeTraveller]

Used to use a ex military 4 season foam mat (dual colour) the went on to thermarest prolite...that lasted for about 5 years then next onto a Multimat 3/4 which is still as good as the day I began to use it (7 years now)
Currently using a Klymit static V which is real nice and comfy but have noticed the cold travels through it quite easy ( started to use windscreen reflector with it)
The Klymit mat is my fav so I'm considering buying the insulated version and giving the other to my son who like the small packsize.

[Steve_B]

For what it's worth, I've done a few long tours using a foam mat (old-school 4-seadon Karrimat) and a couple with a self-inflating Thermarest. The foam mats are bomb-proof - ok, they may be bulky to carry, but they're light, so can be strapped on in a variety of positions. The fact there's nothing to rip and/or puncture is good for your peace of mind, and they're certainly comfy enough.
Haven't read through the entire thread, but I know you can still get an equivalent product over in Canada (see https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5041-524/ ... lour=NOC02).

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,
"Foam Sleeping Mats".............."Bomb Proof"

I like that, the subject was foam mats.

[djb]

For what it's worth, I've done a few long tours using a foam mat (old-school 4-seadon Karrimat) and a couple with a self-inflating Thermarest. The foam mats are bomb-proof - ok, they may be bulky to carry, but they're light, so can be strapped on in a variety of positions. The fact there's nothing to rip and/or puncture is good for your peace of mind, and they're certainly comfy enough.
Haven't read through the entire thread, but I know you can still get an equivalent product over in Canada (see https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5041-524/ ... lour=NOC02).

and the more compact folding versions of the Thermorest ones are a good option also, with a good r value, and reasonable comfort, and seem like a good alternative if you don't want to be concerned about any type of air mattress. I've tried one in a store years ago, but just prefer the comfort of the air types.

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5027-423/ ... eeping-Pad

It will be interesting to see the availability of things in general this summer, both from the supply chain effect and the seemingly continuing lack of travel which will mean another summer of lots and lots of people wanting to do local outdoor activities and buying up whatever is available.