Ex-Post Office CEO Paula Vennells

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And who pays her legal fees? Taxpayers?
Yep always us Taxpayers,

Does anyone know if there were was any possibility of the reverse? Horizon payments posted to sub post master accounts and is this possible? So the accounts would be in surplus rather then deficit. Logically the possibility must exist.
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freiston wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:09pm
Cowsham wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 9:47am

Sub judice is the proper phrase she was looking for. Used a lot in the Ranson affair. Seriously the government needs to get the convictions overturned and compensation paid asap before more worms crawl out of the dirt.
Any compensation paid should take into account the free board and lodging enjoyed by imprisoned postmasters. It costs something over £30,000 a year per prisoner, so any compensation should be reduced by this amount for each year spent inside.
Is that still the case?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
IIRC it later emerged that the repayment hadn't been applied in practice for some time.

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freiston wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:09pm
Cowsham wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 9:47am

Sub judice is the proper phrase she was looking for. Used a lot in the Ranson affair. Seriously the government needs to get the convictions overturned and compensation paid asap before more worms crawl out of the dirt.
Any compensation paid should take into account the free board and lodging enjoyed by imprisoned postmasters. It costs something over £30,000 a year per prisoner, so any compensation should be reduced by this amount for each year spent inside.
Is that still the case?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
If the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.
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"Remove Post Office from Horizon scandal compensation schemes, MPs demand":
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ps-demand/

Sounds right to me.

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Jdsk wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 8:44am "Remove Post Office from Horizon scandal compensation schemes, MPs demand":
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ps-demand/

Sounds right to me.

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Yes the sooner the SPM's get paid the less money will get sucked up by the legal fees in the long run so I'd be in favor of over compensation rather than trying to be too precise about every case. The government should just own up to their mistakes universally and save the legal budget for convicting the ones at the centre of the scandal.
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pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 3:09pm
freiston wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:09pm

Any compensation paid should take into account the free board and lodging enjoyed by imprisoned postmasters. It costs something over £30,000 a year per prisoner, so any compensation should be reduced by this amount for each year spent inside.
Is that still the case?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
If the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.
The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
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Jdsk wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 2:45pm
thirdcrank wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 5:57pm I see from today's Private Eye (No 1615) that in the initial fuss following the "dramatisation" Paula Vennells employed libel lawyers Mishcon de Reya to send newspapers a legal notice to "stop belabouring her."

Apparently, it was only when that failed that "she caved in and relinquished her gong." (FWIW, the last bit is wrong as you cannot simply return a CBE.)
It's about to be removed.
Does anyone know if the defenestration/annulling ceremony will be televised?
PS: I don't think that this will make much difference to anything. On balance I'd leave the "honour" in place as that would help to bring the whole rotten system into further disrepute.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 9:56am
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 3:09pm
freiston wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
Is that still the case?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
If the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.
The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
You must be looking at different papers to the ones normally published under those names.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 9:56am
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 3:09pm
freiston wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
Is that still the case?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
If the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.
The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
Just out of interest:

# Is the Guardian the mirror image of any paper and if so then which one / ones?

# How, in objective terms, would you describe the Guardian?
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Carlton green wrote: 9 Mar 2024, 10:52am ...
# How, in objective terms, would you describe the Guardian?
I'd describe it as a newspaper best discussed in another thread.

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As an alternative, I'd recommend a subscription to Private Eye which is a way of supporting genuine investigative journalism.
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thirdcrank wrote: 9 Mar 2024, 3:51pm As an alternative, I'd recommend a subscription to Private Eye which is a way of supporting genuine investigative journalism.
Agreed. MP's and others in positions of authority dread the scrutiny of the Eye if they have anything they'd rather you didn't know about. That in itself is a good thing.

And some genuinely funny stuff as well. What's not to like.
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Carlton green wrote: 9 Mar 2024, 10:52am
roubaixtuesday wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 9:56am
pete75 wrote: 23 Feb 2024, 3:09pm

If the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.
The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
Just out of interest:

# Is the Guardian the mirror image of any paper and if so then which one / ones?

# How, in objective terms, would you describe the Guardian?
1. Probably the Times

2. The Guardian is regarded as a newspaper of record, ie factually reliable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gua ... 0105%2C134.

It has left leaning, "soft left" editorial position but also includes commentary from other positions eg a regular column from Simon Jenkins. Editorial and reporting are generally kept separate.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 9:37pm
Carlton green wrote: 9 Mar 2024, 10:52am
roubaixtuesday wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 9:56am

The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
Just out of interest:

# Is the Guardian the mirror image of any paper and if so then which one / ones?

# How, in objective terms, would you describe the Guardian?
1. Probably the Times

2. The Guardian is regarded as a newspaper of record, ie factually reliable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gua ... 0105%2C134.

It has left leaning, "soft left" editorial position but also includes commentary from other positions eg a regular column from Simon Jenkins. Editorial and reporting are generally kept separate.
Thank you for responding and thank you for the link which proved interesting too. Usefully educational.
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Re: Ex-Post Office CEO Paula Vennells

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roubaixtuesday wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 9:37pm
Carlton green wrote: 9 Mar 2024, 10:52am
roubaixtuesday wrote: 7 Mar 2024, 9:56am

The Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.
Just out of interest:

# Is the Guardian the mirror image of any paper and if so then which one / ones?

# How, in objective terms, would you describe the Guardian?
1. Probably the Times

2. The Guardian is regarded as a newspaper of record, ie factually reliable.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gua ... 0105%2C134.

It has left leaning, "soft left" editorial position but also includes commentary from other positions eg a regular column from Simon Jenkins. Editorial and reporting are generally kept separate.
The Daily Telegraph is also a newspaper of record according to Wikipedia.
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